What we get wrong about affirmative action

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Published 2018-12-10
The latest allegation that Harvard discriminates against Asians could kill affirmative action altogether.

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An alleged discrimination case against Harvard has put the affirmative action debate in the spotlight again — this time with Asian Americans being used to make the case against it. But the problem is, the way we talk about race in college admissions hasn’t changed for years…and it’s often wrong.

While we may think of affirmative action as a policy that boosts college applicants of color to help undo the effects of historical discrimination — the Supreme Court has actually narrowed the use of affirmative action over decades of rulings. And now, armed with an allegation that Harvard is using race in college admissions to discriminate against Asian applicants — conservative opponents of affirmative action may put the issue back in the hands of a majority-conservative Supreme Court.

Watch the video above to find out what we get wrong about the debate, and how Asians may fit into the complicated use of affirmative action in US college admissions.

For more in-depth reading, check out these articles:

www.vox.com/2018/3/28/17031460/affirmative-action-…

www.vox.com/2018/10/18/17984108/harvard-asian-amer…

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All Comments (21)
  • @Vox
    The lawsuit against Harvard not only forces us to talk about where Asian Americans fit into the affirmative action debate, but also their role in the racial equity debate. Read why on vox.com/: bit.ly/2C1Bc56
  • @defaultmesh
    But why race tho? I mean, why don't just base the system by wealth? poorer students get some advantages while other students are treated the same no matter the race.
  • @sambradley7393
    In the UK, we give an advantage based on household income rather than ethnicity. Not only is this much more politically acceptable, but it largely correlates to ethnicity whilst not abandoning poorer white people.
  • @drsch
    So, I just want to make sure I understand what Vox is getting at here: Their conclusion is that if Universities were required to only look at academic scores and performance rather than the color of someone's skin, there is no chance that minorities (ignoring Asians for some reason) would be able to perform and make the cut. Basically, the point of the video is that Blacks and Hispanics are incapable of achieving things based on performance and must rely on the color of their skin to achieve. Isn't that kind of...racist?
  • @grantmartin2002
    It is as simple as this: Employers and colleges should base their decisions on competence and nothing else.
  • As a non american I don't understand one thing: how can universities judge "kindness", "courage" or "leadership" of applicants? Are there objective parameters for measure them?
  • @roderick167
    So.. affirmative action is about equality of outcome.. NOT equality of opportunity
  • Vox had a dream, that one day, people will be judged by the color of their skin, and not the content of their character.
  • @c.i.a.932
    If this is the best argument for affirmative action, then I don’t think this is a good idea.
  • @youngobes
    this didn't discuss a major reason Asians are discriminated against at schools like Harvard: legacy admissions
  • @jamiebowles4588
    "... and Conservatives will finally get the color-blind process they've long dreamed of." It's not OUR dream- WHO said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today."
  • @lilyracken7249
    "But this isn't because Asians work harder or care more about education". what? then why is it then? I'm going to be more skeptical of what Vox says from now on.
  • @jetconway5995
    6:34 are they trying to say asians weren't discriminated against well enough?
  • I hate how whenever vox has an agenda they want to push, instead of stating it explicitly they say “we suck at talking about it”.
  • @jacobl6109
    Yay! Let’s fight racism by, wait for it..... MORE RACISM!
  • @kueapel911
    6:13 oh gee, thanks... I guess my chinese mom who worked 11 hours a day and my chinese dad who worked 13 hours a day back then didn't work harder than other people... I guess me myself who didn't get the luxury to play with friends on the weekend because of my supplementary lessons wasn't really cared that much about education and didn't study harder... thanks for the clarification vox, almost thought I tried harder but apparently not...
  • @paulhuang2773
    There's no reason that Asian people need to be discriminated against to lift up other minorities.
  • @chitchatcharlie
    The explanation in this video is extremely confusing and doesn't make anything any clearer. "We suck at talking about." You didn't solve it Vox!
  • @MrBLAA
    Ahhhhhhh!!! I see👆 The best way to NOT BE RACIST ... is to be racist *thanks VOX✌️