AR15-Obsessed Dork Debunks Wendigoon's AR15 Video

Knowledge of the Autistic Rifle -15 is a spectrum

The AR15 stands for assault rifle 15 (15 for how many bullets it can hold) it was made by Call of Duty to sell their 4th game. Eugene Stoner, named as such over his famous love for weed- thought of it in 2010 when he was like "yo these quickscopers suck- I need a junk 3 burst to counter that'll be quickly replaced by the AUG, M4, or Famas"

Why didn't the army just adopt the draco??

This is how you correct Wendigoon and not like how that other guy did.

Ah, yes, over an hour of pure gun autism I love it

Is it ok to tell people that the forward assist is like the pump on a bb gun and the more times you press the power up button the faster the bullets will go? Asking for a friend.

Slight quibble on the cleaning kit aspect. No, the Army didn't have "M16 specific cleaning kits" originally, and they didn't (originally) have butt traps for cleaning kits, either. So the rifles were shipped to troops without cleaning kits. And it was the first standard issue rifle in 70 years that couldn't (in a pinch) use the cleaning kit of the previous rifle, because it wasn't .30 caliber. That means nobody was used to thinking, "Oh, shit, we need to make sure each new rifle gets a cleaning kit shipped with it!" However ... the proper cleaning brushes, rods, and cleaning patches were already in inventory , complete with NSN codes that any supply sergeant could order at will. If the supply guys knew the proper numbers (reading through a 1960s NSN catalog blindly to get the correct stuff not really being a reliable way to do it). Remember, the Army had been using .22LR training rifles for a long time by this point - and unless the chamber is actually rusty, you don't really need a chamber brush - but you do need a rod, brush, and patch holder that fits the bore (you can cut .30 patches in half and use them - that's generally what we used in the 1980s because it was easier to have everyone carry .30 patches so the M60 always had cleaning patches.) Which comes to the Colt tech teams, which would come out to your unit (even in Vietnam) and spend a day or so on "train the trainer" and teach NCOs and supply clerks how to maintain and support the rifle beyond how to order more ammo. The NCOs would then reach the troops how to do operator level stuff, and the armored and supply sergeants would know how to do their part, including having a cheat sheet of the proper NSN codes for all the supply needs (spare parts, cleaning supplies , etc.) Studies of units that did take advantage of the offered traveling tech support teams did not report the issues that drove the Icord hearings. Nor did those troops believe the rifles were "self cleaning", because they knew how to clean them and had cleaning supplies, because they had been trained . Special Forces units (even those that didn't call in the tech teams) didn't have problems, because even without tech support, the SF Light Weapons Sergeants (minimum of two of them in every 12 man ODA, and usually at least four when you count cross training) could figure it out and damned well knew the rifles would need to be cleaned, and figured out how to get the right cleaning supplies. You know which units did report major reliability issues in Vietnam? The units whose commanders decided they didn't need to call in civilian tech support teams (who were manufacturer reps, remember), and didn't want to "waste" a day or so of training time with "civilians" underfoot. And those are the same units where troops though the rifle was "self cleaning" ("Because its all aluminum, right?" while possibly remembering reading that Colt and Armalite had boasted the gas tubes didn't need to be cleaned - which is true - while forgetting that they were only discussing the gas tube, not the whole rifle). And when I enlisted in 1987, I was still seeing Fuddlore cleaning myths about the M16 kicking around from these undertrained units in Vietnam circulating via Rumor Control over beers in the NCO Club. Further reinforced by Fuddlore kicking around from Ye Olde Corrosive Ammo Days, and armorers inspecting M16s as if they were M1903 Springfields issued with bore cleaner solvent and firing corrosive ammo. It was so bad they had to put a line in the operator and armorer's manuals to say, "Quit trying to white glove the rifles! If it will pass a white glove, they didn't clean it correctly, and it's not lubricated correctly!"

We want the 4 hour version, and we want it NOW!

I WANT THE 4 HOURS! WE WANT THE 4 HOURS!

You are wrong, the army tried to sabotage the m16 because they wanted to implement the gold scar as it 31 dmg instead of 28. Check your sources buddy.

#releasethefourhourcut

And anyone who thinks the M16 had an especially bad initial start should look at all the engineering changes the M1 Garand (which had ten years of development before adoption) implemented between adoption and the US entering WWII, meaning they could be integrated into production prior to US troops taking them into battle in large numbers. Hell, the basis of the entire gas system were changed, from being a Bang gas trap to a gas port design (a decidedly non-trivial change). Or they could look at the reliability issues with the M1 and M2 Carbines. We would never acceot the malfunction rates the Army thought were fine with the M1 Carbine. Note the M1 Carbine really was a rush project, too.

Calling out Wendigoon and saying gun jesus is wrong. The redditors are gonna have their wife's boyfriends call you a bad word

I'M interested in a 4 hour video!

I hope nobody thinks this is a hate video. My boy Wendigoon literally asked for people more knowledgeable on specifics to point out the things he got wrong Edit: also I wanna just say that just because Wendigoon got some specific stuff wrong about the AR-15 and its procurement, doesn’t mean he is wrong about all the history, which was the main focus of the video. He’s a gun enthusiast yes, but he obviously doesn’t know absolutely everything about the AR-15 platform.

Rizz 'em with the Tism! 😂

Chris Bartocchi is where most of the story of the M16 being sabotaged from within comes from in the guntube sphere, but he never blames the "army" as a whole. He blames Ordnance Corps and Springfield Arsenal.

A lot of politics started making sense to me when someone pointed out that debate club rules aren't to be right, but to provide a compelling argument while not getting mad at the other team. Not that far removed from Youtube comment thread rules.

the non-production of the ar15 /10 beltfed lmg was the real crime in the gun's history, so i consider whoever stopped / disagreed on its existence as an act of sabotage by a criminal and their criminal organization.

This is the kinda autism I go on YouTube for