Cutting Smash's Roster In Half But I'm Not A Coward

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Published 2024-07-03
With the Switch 2 on the way and Smash 6 inevitably following behind, there's been a lot of talk about where Super Smash Bros goes from here. Maybe that's why these "halving the roster" videos have become so popular this year, or maybe it's because Smash Ultimate has so many annoying characters on both ends of the tier list, but in any case, it's time to get messy.

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All Comments (21)
  • @MockRockTalk
    Thanks for watching! I know this one's gonna be controversial because even as I'm writing this, all the early access comments already disagree with each other lol. I'll respond to some of the biggest arguments I see in the comments here: -Rosalina vs. Bowser Jr. was a bit of a toss up, but I think "Bowser and Bowser" is a little redundant if that makes sense, and Rosalina is the only true puppet character left after the cuts (Olimar doesn't really count). She has a VERY clear identity in Smash, whereas Jr.'s has always felt a little muddled. I do admit losing the Koopa Kids alongside him sucks though, there's a good case to be made for him entirely because of how well those work. -Cloud vs. Sora is one that I fully expected to see come up a lot, and look, take your spiky-haired anime boy of choice, I have no skin in the game here. -Raven Beak is realistically not viable compared to Sylux, although a) this video was recorded a few days before the Direct, and b) I still wish he was because he's so much cooler. -"You really cut all the Fire Emblem characters besides Marth" is being treated like something radioactive as if I haven't spent the last decade hearing complaints about how over-represented the series is lol. With the way Fire Emblem mechanics work there's nothing stopping you from adding a rotating hero that covers tons of cool, representative design space, while also keeping Marth both because he performs an important function in Smash and also represents the Fire Emblem legacy. -"You should have cut Jigglypuff." No. -"The Miis should have been condensed into a single fighter." This one I get the argument for, but Miis also perform a very important role by allowing a lot of characters into the series who couldn't become full-fledged fighters. I didn't talk about that element in the video too much, but it's a big one that wouldn't work very well if those characters were all forced into the same archetype. -"There's too much Gen 1 in the Pokemon rep." Yeah, probably, but that's kind of the nature of the beast when you have to get really reductionist. Lucario is one of the most iconic Gen 4 Pokemon, yes, but Mewtwo is one of the most iconic Pokemon ever. Swapping them out to "spread the representation out more" just feels disingenuous, to name one of several examples. Main channel: youtube.com/mockrocktv Twitter: twitter.com/MrMockRock Patreon: www.patreon.com/mockrock Twitch: www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch Teespring: teespring.com/stores/mockrock TimeBolt affiliate link (excellent software I use to speed up editing on my videos, use code "MOCKROCK" for a discount): mockrock--timebolt.thrivecart.com/order-page/
  • @campthemvp
    MOCKROCK! IT’S A TRAP! SMASH FANS JUST WANT TO GET ANGRY WHEN YOU INEVITABLY CUT A CHARACTER THEY LIKE! MOCKROOOOOOOOCK!
  • @justinn8541
    Here is a compromise for ""Ganondorf" should stay" people. We first cut "Ganondorf", then we introduce actual Ganondorf
  • @jmurray1110
    Mii fighters were made mainstays when Nintendo learned they could sell costumes
  • @PhazoGanon
    So hey, I'm the one who made that Jigglypuff rework, and not only did I just change Jigglypuff, I changed a lot more characters to generally be more faithful to their original incarnations
  • "Cutting Piranha Plant without being a coward" You shall die braver than most.
  • @Driff97
    I'd argue the main reason why the Miis will stay regardless of what literally anyone says, is because to Nintendo, they're money printing machines.
  • Using Banjo’s uninspired moveset as a reason to axe them feels weird when you already kept so many characters with the excuse of “well they can just fix their moveset next time”.
  • @go4cyclone
    Surprised that Rosalina didn't end up as the last cut over Ike. I get she's a big name in Mario now but the greater Mario franchise makes up a literal fifth of this roster and it doesn't need every single one of those.
  • I appreciate you didn’t approach the 3rd parties from a “it might be rough for Nintendo to work out a deal with them”, cause realistically, after the Switch’s success, Nintendo shouldn’t have too much trouble working out licenses. And that reasoning in cut videos just makes it lame to cut them for that alone.
  • @ivrydice0954
    Mockrock forgot to put Rosalina's section in the video and yet still acts like we'd miss her if we had to give her the boot.
  • @VCosmoz
    > I'm not a coward > Doesn't cut Puff ok
  • The only thing that really baffled me was cutting bowser junior over rosalina. Jr has been a consistent villain in many mainline mario games, while rosalina was important only in galaxy 1 and has since been relegated to spinoffs like the kart and party series. Plus junior also comes with the koopalings which are even more classic to nintendo history.
  • @orpheus9098
    Mii fighter mains are at the level of confidence I want to have, because they see about 80 characters and decide "Nah, I'm cooler than all of these guys"
  • You say you’re not being a coward about it but Echo Fighters being counted is the most cowardly. Go back and cut 4 more real characters
  • @kwagar9810
    Cutting almost all the fire emblem cast but keeping Toon Link is CRAZY
  • @lasercraft32
    Cutting Ridley (one of Metroid's most iconic characters, who's been fan requested for years) and replacing him with a guy that appeared in one game makes zero sense at all.
  • @dabiskitt
    Me watching another “cutting half the roster” video knowing damn well my main is about to be cut:
  • @axolofa
    Rosalina getting kept over Cloud and Ike is criminal