Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism | Lex Fridman Podcast #410

Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors below. Transcript: lexfridman.com/ben-shapiro-destiny-debate-transcri… 0:00 - Introduction 1:36 - Liberalism vs Conservatism 6:49 - Education 23:06 - Trump vs Biden 43:31 - Foreign policy 56:28 - Israel-Palestine 1:11:25 - Russia-Ukraine 1:23:04 - January 6 1:39:03 - Abuse of power 1:49:01 - Wokeism 1:55:42 - Institutional capture 2:09:36 - Monogamy vs open relationships 2:14:29 - Rapid fire questions Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast: - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - Policygenius: policygenius.com/lex - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off

Lex hosting the SuperBowl for nerds is a great gift to us all

Left vs. Right. Conservative vs. Progressive. Democrat vs Republican. Theist vs Atheist. Traditionalist vs Modernist. Man's name vs Woman's name. This debate truly encapsulated a lot. Thanks Lex.

Now this is how a real debate works. No talking over one another, no insults, just pure conversation between two different sides.

I had to double-check my YouTube settings because I thought I had set the play mode to 1.5x speed 😂

Playing this at 0.25x speed so I can follow 👂 👂

This is 100x better than any presidential debate will ever be

I'm less than one hour in and I already feel like this should be mandatory viewing for all high school seniors. The level of intellect, the respectful discourse, the deep understanding of issues...all are so good. This is what debate should look like. Thanks Lex for making this happen.

This honestly has to be one of my favorite debates for destiny and ben. It felt like two people actually having a conversation rather than the huge spectacle i feel like everyone else is trying to put on usually. Neither of them attacked or insulted the other and i got to just genuinely hear two different perspectives and thats all i want

This might be the single best debate in the last year. No yelling, very few interruptions, solid moderator, many topics discussed. A debate that's actually not enraging or frustrating to watch.

The friendliest rap battle I've seen

1:25:04 something about seeing Ben Shapiro smiling at Destiny's commentary here is quite heartwarming. Really get the impression that both are enjoying the debate.

Would have loved a final question for both. Have you changed Alan opinions after this debate

If only presidential debates were this substantive and good faith. This is what America needs.

It’s really a sign of how messed up things are that the majority of comments are people saying how amazing it is that two adults are talking…like adults.

Great to finally see a calm, factual debate. Thanks Lex, would love to see another round (different topics)

This is what a true debate is like. Not yelling over each other, throwing insults, etc. You can hear both Ben and Destiny debate their points and at the end of each segment, both can admit to agreeing to each others points in some way or another. There's no egotistical view that they MUST BE RIGHT at all costs.

It’s actually insane how much more respectful and mature this was than the past few presidential debates

This is the longest I've listened to Ben speak without hearing an ad read.

I consider myself left wing but as an Irishman, what Ben said at 39.09 regarding European Taxation is 100% true. The middle class are taxed to death in this country to the point we have brought about the working poor. I’m not necessarily in favour of the US system, but our taxation laws are fucked