Birth of Islamic Pakistan and Political Conflict in Karachi - Two Pakistans - Shehzad Ghias #TPE

Published 2024-04-24
Our new series, Two Pakistans, looks at the conflicts in Pakistan and uses Dr. Mohammad Waseem's book, "Political Conflict in Pakistan" to explain the fault lines in Pakistan.

Episode 1 looks at the use of the Islamic Identity as the identity of Pakistan at the birth of the nation, partition, colonialism and Political Conflict in Karachi.

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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction to TWO PAKISTANS
5:00 Conflict, Colonialism and the Birth of Pakistan
11:57 Otherization, Partition and Karachi
26:04 Use of Islamic Touch Politics by Parties and the Muslim League Movement
34:30 Karachi, Migration and the Sindhi-Mohajir Conflict
37:51 Elite Capture
46:00 How we lost Karachi's multiculturalism

All Comments (21)
  • @stewie__69
    "Agar Pakistan islamic mission pursue nahi karega toh kya reh jaayega ? Pakistan toh India reh jaayega". This sentiment was shared with me by my grandfather while recounting our family's migration from Pakistan to India, and it resonates deeply.
  • @Indus720
    So Pakistani Movement was UnIslamic and was not for Islam. And Muslim league leaders were campaigning for Secular state out of India 😂😂😂
  • @harpalbedi2801
    Pakistani Education System best illustrated by the top Pakistani Journalist , Anchor and Broadcaster Hamid Mir for him Urban Naxal is Arab Nasal. God Bless
  • @Sk-cr2bl
    British se Decolonisation hone ke bad pakistan ka islamic colonisation ho gaya matlab - apani hi soch ke gulam ban gaya....🙏🙏🙏🙏
  • You can't call genocide by technical definition in Palestine because even 1971 Bangladesh casualties were not called genocide. For genocide by definition, you need to have a certain percentage of the population. In Palestine, certainly what is happening is extremely unfortunate, but you can't call simply as Genocide like Jews Genocide in Germany. Because you need to have a certain population percentage. When Saudi allied forces' operations caused half a million casualties, it was still not called genocide despite no of casualties being 30 times more than Palestine. I know your emotional support for Palestine is quite visible, but don't use wrong terminology for casualties. By using wrong terminology, you are mixing it with actual real genocides like Armenian genocide or Jewish Genocide.
  • @Shva927
    As an answer to your question around 30:00 min- This is in answer to Congress manifesto of wealth redistribution, and subtle hints of minority politics This is also a reaction of center right which u guys forget that other side also exists and it watches u carefully, when u support something like oct 7 and oppose certain values and things.Keep on supporting hhamas and u will see a reaction around the world.Do brace yourself for what is coming.Cheers! There r about 20 million illegal migrants in India, with extreme majority being bangladeshi mostly muslims, who have changed demographic in certain constituency and don't represent Indian values. Overall this is a reaction to the appeasement politics that the other side plays. Indian value or u can say values inherently taught to hindus ( 85℅ population) r such that it sees everyone in fact every religion as equal so certain things cannot be changed.
  • @talalali5149
    Really loved this type of content from you Shahzad really appreciated!!!!!! Looking forward to more episodes of this series 🙌❤️🙌
  • @zackjeer
    2002 Gujrat riot were RIOTS, meaning clash between 2 communities, by calling it a genocide (or) putting it in that bracket is being intellectually dishonest of the highest order, spreading fake narrative without making an attempt to learn facts. The instigation was from Ganchi muslims by burning the train, where karsevaks were burnt alive, what happened was a retaliation If u want to call genocide, Check "noakhali massacre" , "mopalah massacre" , "kashmiri hindus genocide" Make an attempt to be honest Besides "otherization" is inherent in Islam
  • Don't compare violence of partition ,formation of Bangladesh with Gujrat roits. Same condition existed on both sides of borders, in Pakistan, Minority disappeared but in India Muslims doubled their population . Muslims of India donot wish to migrate to Pakistan. Millions of Bangladeshi illegally entered India.There is strict border fencing and guarding along Pakistan. Otherwise even Pakistanies would have illegally entered in India. So confine your discussion to your Great Pakistan, leave alone India to its own path
  • @jamshedfbc
    Tilak Devasher's Pakistan: Courting the Abyss published in 2016 is quite insightful.
  • It's funny that I am saying it like this but when you compare the otherization of minorities by majority, you seem to forget that the majority in India are entirely different from the majority in Pakistan in societal values. We are continuously fighting our battles for equality within our communities and for other communities that are oppressed within themselves and we as a citizen of a democratic nation are encouraged to do so. From where I am looking at things I guess some religious communities are just built differently. The majority community in India is indeed. We have had a long battle of rectifying ourselves of our sins, we continue to do so each day simultaneously coexisting with 40 crore other communities that we know as our minorities and only a handful seem to have a problem in doing the same. There is this inherent exclusive mindset in some communities that makes it hard for them to coexist peacefully. In this case the otherization was done long-long back and it can't be undone now. As far as India is concerned, you'll need to read more than Romilla Thapar and NYTimes
  • @samdes678
    The thing that is missing from narrative about what the Indian PM said is that he was quoting Dr Singh and linking it to what Mr R Gandhi has been saying and hidden within its manifesto. The fight of Hindus in India is to be treated equally as the Christian and Muslim brethren. Congress gifted away acres of prime land in Delhi to Wakf board right before 2014 elections to get those minority votes. They also brought in a law that would prescute majority irrespective of perpetuators in case of riots. We also have draconian laws in Wakf which allow the minority to stake claims to any land they want and that decision can’t be challenged in courts! They recently claimed to a 1000 year old temple as Wakf owned property. They have at it now in Karnataka and Telangana where they have government. Indias problem were never the Muslims. It was the illegitimate children of British in Congress who always divided Indians.
  • 1).u r feeling for Gaza, we Indians are feeling bad for Pakistan sponsored termism from 1947 to till now, 2). why Hamas started the war why u r not talking on that 3), what about hostage? 4). if Modi wins again it is RSS propaganda but is is people who voted them. 5)why all Islam nations doesn't have human and women rights & no democracy and u r talking about BJP in India 6).first clean your Pakistan then advice to others. 7).why Palestine people not getting any support from rich Islam nations.
  • @nofilkhan6743
    Thank you for this. The impact of these videos will be monumental.
  • @stukafluka9940
    Post-partition governance in Pakistan was a continuation of the British East India Company's viceroy-like dictatorial mindset. The voice of the common man was always subjugated and central authority was perpetrated with seeds of democracy and decentralization never allowed to germinate. An oligarchical setup has always prevailed which has totally strangulated encouragement of new ideas and original thought resulting in depleted and stunted growth of the nation. The sooner rulers realize their mistakes and promote emergence of new ideas and original thought, progress and prosperity of Pakistan will always suffer. Pakistan Army needs to return to their barracks and take the back-seat for Pakistan to progress and prosper. It is as simple as that...
  • @Sk-zw7bb
    Ask the Sindhi political elite that you are so quick to give a pass to what they have been doing for the last 2 decades in Sindh? 2 out of 3 children in rural Sindh suffer from stunting due to water contamination, no other province in Pakistan has this stat.
  • The best narration , alfaaz ki adaayegi Bohat achi hi , Bohat clear cut samjha dia hi Excellent v log pesh Kia hi specially this one
  • you slayed through it, Shehzad! I spotted you on the same energy as I have been on since 2023. I couldn't hold myself together having known and seen unveiled power structure of Pakistan.