Did Quaid-e-Azam want Pakistan to be a secular or an Islamic state? - Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed - TPE #060

Good informatic and intellectual discussion..... Love from India 🇮🇳

This was the first-ever episode of "The Pakistan Experience" I listened to — and this happened to be the audio-podcast version. As a 75 years old Pakistani living abroad, I simply loved it and remained riveted listening to it right through to the end. So why do I rate this discussion so high? These two words describe that best: it was honest & unbiased. Ordinarily, we tend to exalt our leaders to a level that we start to think of them as super-human, which they are not. For whatever reasons, we have transformed and catapulted Quaid-e-Azam to a level that mentioning a shortfall in his character or actions is construed as blasphemy. Thank you, Dr. Ishtiaq, for your honesty in portraying the Quaid as a human — the way Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre have done in "The Freedom at Midnight". And lest I forget, the young-looking host (I apologize for not knowing your name) surprised me pleasantly with his knowledge, intriguing questions and indeed a very smiling demeanour. Young man! You have a great future ahead: just don't hope and predict, remain focused creating it. PS. Goes without saying that I'm now subscribed to your channel. ❤️

He is the first balanced intellectual in subcontinent i have come across. I like the dispassionate way he deals with history. Very competent. His courage , awe inspiring

One of the best discussions on your channel. It was a treat to listen to Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed.

I am an Indian from Bengal and I follow pakistani politics for past couple of years very closely. Very interesting discussion. Keep up the good work borther and hats off to professor 🙏

Prof. Dr. Ishtiaq is not only a genuine scholar but also a remarkable human being. May he live long happily.

I'll start with pointing out the positives of this podcast: A) Highly enlightening. B) Based on facts and evidences, hence, scientific in nature. C) Unbiased interpretation and its elucidation of facts. D) Dr. Ahmed a man of very high intellectual prowess. E) Thodi si taareef host ki bhi karni banti hai jisne itna patiently anchor kiya. And more importantly he had courage to accept the things that went wrong on Jinnah's end.

I like Dr.Sahib. reminds me of my old Uncle.inspires respect and affection. Though I am a punjabi Hindu.🙏 But.muslims can't have it both ways.cant have its cake and eat it too..

I splendidly listen Prof. Saab's words. I am from Nepal and have a great interest in Partition History and Prof. Saab is a great help in this regard. I have learnt to read Urdu script with great labor without any teacher. This is my third Script after Devnagari and Roman .

Every Pakistani should follow and study Isthiaq Ahmed, then ALL doubts will be Cleared . He is very objective.

1 of Best dialogues that ever happened in Pakistan. Dear professor sir is as usual ocean of wisdom. Here more impressive is this young bloke . U r daamn professional dude Man@ 12👌👌

Jinnah's daughter's claim on his Bombay house in court is based on the argument that jinnah was khoja Ismaili and therefore his inheritance should be in accordance of Hindu personal law and not muslim personal law in India.

Thanks for sharing your valuable thoughts and knowledge related to history.

I must admit the interest and knowledge of Mr. Shahzad Ghias and also for hosting this show.

I often listen from people of other countries and even in India that India was a secular state and now it is moving towards becoming Hindu Rastra. This is not the case. India was never a secular state. It is propaganda form all the political parties of India for the outside people. Yes, India does not have any state religion but that does not imply that a country that does not have any state religion is a secular state. A truly secular state is a state which does not give any kind of religious preference to any community. In India for Muslims there is a Muslim personal law which is based on Sharia law, Muslim can legally follow polygamy, Triple talaq (only instant Triple talaq is banned in 2017), and others Sharia law. For Non-muslim there is the Hindu Code Bill, Which is based on modern society values and does not allow any kind of religious preference. In my opinion, India will become a truly secular state when India implements the Uniform civil code which I don't see it in the near future.

👍👍👍👍 another great discussion!! always feel much more aware about our history and reality!! after watching ur shows.!

Hi Shezad, I am writing midway through this podcast, writing now so that I dont forget later. It would be really nice to have a list of the book references Dr. Ishtiaq mentioned here, if feasible. I may not be able to read all the books but a few might be possible. Btw excellent and informative session this with Dr. Ishtiaq, quite a myth buster. Many thanks for that! More power to you!

I always learn something new, every time I listen to professor sahab. And i feel good to see that you have a meaningful podcast, and you are a bell read man. Bravo

Excellent program... well conducted and truly informative. Keep it up.

Thank you so much, DOCTOR SAHIB JEE.