Should you buy a 3F UL GEAR QiDian Pro ultralight backpack?❔

Frameless backpacks have to be packed in a different way from the regular framed ones! Packing all the heavy stuff at the bottom isn't the way to go with these ones. One has to "give structure" to the whole load, rather than just place the stuff according to their weight and density. People basically hiked with these types of backpacks for centuries with no issues, then the frame come into play making the packing process a lot more forgiving, and everyone just forgot about the right way of packing :).

Good honest review. Thank you👍

Great honest review.

Good honest review. Seen other reviews where they have had similar experiences. Will be interested to see if you come up with any hacks to improve it.

The video quality of these videos are 10/10. Keep it up!

Ay up Ben 😎 Nice honest review. I like the colour coordination and the price is pretty good. I've not tried a frameless bag before and think you'd have to be conscious in how you pack your kit. Look forward to a further review 👍

I have the old version of this bag, and have a video on it on my channel. The 2 x 1" straps you had round the front/mesh pocket, which you described as compression straps are actually meant to secure the ends of the roll top. I also found the pack makes your back sweaty, but every bag I've ever carried has done this. I carried a full Z matt on my tests and found it reasonably comfy, but then I was brought up on metal framed military rucksacks YMMV. Sadly I've never used the bag "for real" as that video was the last time I actually went for a hike with a decent pack weight due to the state of my ankles. It's a budget ultralight pack meant for "thru hikers" so the comfort features that you'd normally expect are sacrificed for loss in weight. ATB Mate.

I just bought one used it once so far and was great and seems like a great pack.

Looks like a good pack , I have a similar style I pack my fleece and soft bits at the pressure point , I'd prefer to use my old 46 litre from the forces , on another note who needs to leave England look how beautiful it is . Nice one !👍👍👍

I just bought this bugger today just to be able to get into an air plane with only hand bagage. You can't fold backpacks like the Osprey kestrel 48 into the hand luggage sizes. And on what I save by not having to check in 23 kilos I can use to buy whatever the next shiny camping gear comes next.

Ey up Ben,I’ve only recently subscribed to your channel and find your videos well worth a watch,im also subscribed to a few others i.e Haze outdoors,Paul messner,East anglian bushcraft,Andrew beavers,TA outdoors,Andy Wardle,the fell wanderer,Summit or nothing to name a few,sorry for missing anyone. None of these channels have done a review on a small british firm called Station 13. I’m soon to be in the market for a new 1 man tent with a budget of £250 and I don’t want to leave any stone unturned or have my pants pulled down.There is one review on YouTube but it isn’t in depth enough for my liking and it’s the wrong tent. It’s the glencoe 1 that needs reviewing, great vid by the way can’t wait for the next one.👍

Great video Ben

I picked one up over a year ago and never used it yet !

I have this backpack and I use pods to pack stuff. I don't use folding pad either and I rarely have the backpack resting on my back. I find it to be one of the most comfortable packs I have tried. I tried Deuter, Zpacks before.

looked at this pack myself but always thought that the way they use the sleep mat to give the pack structure is a bit hokey …. and frankly you have confirmed my fears about that …from the look of it materials and build quality are excellent which is what you would expect from 3F UL but they may have missed the mark a bit on design …. i’ll be interested in what happens when you redistribute the load and try it again … good video thanks … atb Dave Mc

Looks like a quality bag only down side is its frame lass .I'm sure it's mainly for lightweight hiking whitch to be honest is what I try doing mate but it all comes down too cost it's cheaper then I thought it would be iv looked at alot off gear when it comes too minimalistic hiking and it seems that lighter the gear more expensive it is I could be wrong but that's what iv experience when I go to outdoor shops.great video as all ways 😀

yes you should buy the bag, for £82 delivered to your door , its a great bag and has many features

Looks like it’s modelled on the Atom Packs bags so I think that looks a really smart rucksack. I always thought frameless rucksacks aren’t meant for carrying heavy loads? Really helpful review though Ben. I’m sure it will appeal to some

"All the ducks are swimming in the water"...just sprung to my head then.

Thanks for the review! I'm considering this (or the 3FUL Yue which has a frame) for the weight saving over my current packs. UHMWPE is Dyneema for those not aware. Oh it's pronounced 'Chee Dee-En' (25 yrs living in China) 😀