Tekken: Bloodline | Wasted Plotential

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  • Honestly with how limited their budget was, this turned out pretty good. The only thing that made no sense to me was the shadows in the art style, it has no artistic value imo and I have seen no one that likes it. This show needed more episodes but I realised that they definitely didn't have enough budget to do it, hopefully if there is a season 2, it will be more fleshed out.
  • @saloz9483
    I still liked it as it at least felt like tekken in the action even adding the visual flair and character moves. I also like that we got some Jin and Jun time since IIRC we dont get much of that in the games. I 100% agree it needed way more episodes than 6. I mean there were so many fights and interactions we missed like Jin actually meeting his friends and not in some montage sequence. I was also really thrown off with eddys replacement. As you mentioned its still the best adaptation we got.
  • As soon as a competent fan gets their hands on a story, they pitch something much more satisfying than the official product. This is what I don't understand about projects like the new Tekken show: So they want to chip in the nostalgia of Tekken 3 and allow it's fans to experience the narrative of the series in a more fleshed out manner. But they decide to re-write key scenes, replace characters and give an even shorter story than what you get from the games? I know Tekken's story isn't a master piece, but if they are trying to appeal to the fans, then their target demographic obviously likes the said story. Considering it's a story conveyed in short bios, it has a lot of gaps that gives a lot of freedom to work with. So why on earth do they decide to mess with what little key points they had to work with? Whenever any franchise starts retconning things, I feel a huge slap in the face for my investment in the story, and this has been true for all adaptations of Tekken into movie/series format to date. I'm frustrated with the series, because there was clear attention paid to a lot of lore elements. So we came really close to a proper, canon, fleshed out cinematic take on the Tekken Story. I sincerely appreciate that they took the time to do so, as well as portray actual movesets in-game. But if they aren't going to reward the fans commitment by adhering to the established lore, then I can't get invested in their cinematic take. All it would have taken are the suggestions in the video for me to look forward to season 2. And this is coming from a King fan, who I regret to admit, was given way too much spotlight than he narratively deserved. When will we see Paul's victory over Ogre?
  • Jun really put up a fight against Ogre I don't think Jun died but how they buried Nina was ridiculous making her lose to a teen who ain't even finish High School yet is ridiculous when Nina a highly skilled assassin and fighter their fight was a joke.
  • It definitely needed at least 2 more episodes to better establish the supporting characters, especially Hwoarang and Xiayou - would have loved if the show expanded on Jin's relationships with both of them, showing HOW they met and WHY they are friends. There are so many storytelling opportunities that can be done with these and with the rest of Tekken's large and diverse roster and yet just about nothing was capitalized on aside from the Mishima's once again. BUT Considering the low budget and the fact that this feels more like a pilot series for something greater, I suppose I can let it pass. Hopefully if more seasons come, they do a better job.
  • Tekken 7's final battle is really good tho, probably the only real good part of the story mode.
  • @manchxz
    You really gotta do a Waste Plotential on Jinpachi he’s so interesting but there’s so little on him
  • You need to stop getting your hopes up, Asuka is never gonna be important.
  • @void6091
    It has happened in other material. While non canon Namco clearly wants to establish that Xiaoyu can match and best nina
  • Though I definitely agree with your conclusion, I can't say I agree with how you came to it. Certain elements of the show could have used more fleshing out, but not for the lack of other stories not being adapted. It's more the quality of what they're adapting, rather than what else from the source they could be adding. I agree that there should have been more episodes to flesh out the characters they had. I don't agree that they needed to be fleshed out to the degree you're suggesting. In terms of what this story is trying to accomplish, adding stuff like Nina's cryo-stasis or feud with her sister would be a very distracting element that may further complicate the story being told, rather than enhance it. I definitely agree that there should have been more episodes to flesh out Jin's relationships with Xiaoyu and Hwoarang, and add more credence to Paul's story. And making King the final challenge was an odd decision from a lore perspective. The more episodes should be used to bolster the story threads that they already have instead of adding new ones to keep track of.  Would have liked it if you explained why Leroy's fight with Jin didn't add much, because the Forest suggestion doesn't align with the issues you've have about fights not being connected enough.  Though I thought the fight needed more time to be fleshed out, Nina losing to Xiaoyu isn't THAT unreasonable (neither is Anna beating Yoshimitsu depending on the circumstances). As much exposure Nina has throughout the series, she actually doesn't really have an impressive collection of feats (Death by Degree is her fighting jobbers and fodder). Nina accels at assassinations and fighting dirty. In terms of martial arts, she's pretty much on par with everyone else. I agree with your suggestions to alter their involvement in the story up until the mind control, which hasn't been established as an element up to that point. And this version of Nina is probably the second best adaptation, since the LA movie and The Motion Picture drop the ball in many regards.  I agree that the climax could have been handled a little better than what they did. But for me, the level of game accuracy isn't as important as the level of game consistency; the story effectively accomplishing what it wants, while still staying true to the core elements of the source material. Instead of trying to be exactly the same. But that's just my personally.  Tekken has parts that are epic. While I agree that the series indulges way to much in making grand scale battles. But the show still kept everything relatively to the ground and had restraint when depicting the more epic moments. Comparing the sequences to DBZ is a bit too harsh of a slam. Any other arguments that I didn't bring up I'm mostly fine with. Wish I could have seen the script before you made this.
  • Xiaoyu isn't weak nor unskilled, her beating Nina isn't unrealistic at all. Anna beating Yoshimistu is BS however lol. And the final showdown in Tekken 7's storyline was not dumb either, it actually makes narrative and thematic sense and the direction of the fight was actually excellent. And no, Tekken was ALWAYS an over-the-top epic story lmao. Even Its basic premise (a devil possessed dysfunctional family that owns a world ruling corporation) is blatantly epic and over-the-top. Tekken was always obviously influenced by Shonen anime like DBZ and even Harada himself said this.
  • @SonicHaXD
    Honestly, very disappointed not to see Chun-Li in this show smh XD
  • I don't think Nina is Tekken's poster girl anymore. That may have been the case then, but it certainly isn't now. If someone has been paying attention to the recent marketing, Xiaoyu has been billed as the main Tekken girl in recent years. She was the main Tekken female rep in the Project x Zone games, Kof all-stars game, and Fist of the North Star x Tekken. The latter two were mobile games, but a series poster girl would appear regardless of its importance. Do you see Chun-Li miss out on crossovers like Nina does? There's also the fact that Xiaoyu was in the initial arcade versions of T7 while Nina had to wait for the updates. It was clear that Nina lost her status as Tekken's poster girl to Xiaoyu. The Bloodline anime just made it noticeable. The recent focus on Xiaoyu is most likely due to Blood Vengeance. Xiaoyu was popular but she wasn’t taken seriously by the devs before BV. Her purpose in the lore was just comic relief. Namco didn’t actually choose Xiaoyu to be the main protagonist of BV, it was the film’s writer Dai Satō. Harada was surprised by the decision. After being impressed by Xiaoyu’s role as the heroine in BV, Namco decided to make Xiaoyu the franchise’s poster girl. That’s why Xiaoyu’s more mature characterization from the film carried over to the games. Note that SFxT was the last time Nina was treated as Tekken’s poster girl. Blood Vengeance came out when SFxT was just months away so they couldn’t change the marketing. After SFxT, Xiaoyu began to be treated as Tekken’s poster girl.
  • THANK YOU for bringing up Forest Law! I don't know why it bothers me so much but seeing Marshal Law on the board really annoyed the hell out of me, they didn't even show him anyway so why not just put Forest there?! I also agree he would have worked better than making Leroy a jobber.
  • Tekken Bloodline is okay/"meh" to be honest. Its not great but its not awful either.
  • If you look at the explosion at the cabin more closely, you could see Ogre teleporting at the last second while Jun was still latched on to him. That is a reason how Jun turned into Unknown. Hopefully they will cover it in Tekken 8.
  • You bring up a lot of good points. I really liked this adaptation and I really want a season 2. As for LEROY being there, I don't think it's cause Eddy was to Hard to animate. I feel that was Done because a lot of the episodes is everyone going on about Heihachi's dickheadness. Kazuya is more Eddy's focus. Wer as LEROY is Gunning for Heihachi. All of this could have been Way better if we had More episodes. But what we got with Just 6. I like a lot and love re watching. This show was surprisingly decent and still grounded in the sores material. I just Wish there was more of it.
  • What bothered me with the fights was the lack on an idea about how damaged characters were. They get comb'ed and wake up or they get combo'ed and they don't. Both times I was just thinking "oh ok...". The fights just felt like an exchange of combos VS combos rather than actual fights.
  • Nina is my favorite fighting game character of all time and it sucks to see how fucked up they treated Tekken's poster girl of the franchise.