Stoicism or Christianity…or Both?

Publicado 2024-07-12
I’ve had a number of people asked me the relation between stoicism and Christianity, or the differences between them or more specifically how can a Christian follow both? This video is my simple, poor attempt to answer that question.

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  • @theshield2004
    I’m grateful there are older men on YouTube like you who can give guidance and advice to the younger men and younger generations of people. I think our society needs more people like you, now more than ever...
  • @StrawIsEpic
    My favorite quote by Marcus Aurelius: Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. The wisdom you share in your videos and Meditations has had a great effect on my growth as a man
  • @jordanrhodes4001
    Stoicism is the study of the four virtues (courage, justice, temperance and wisdom) and how we can develop those things in ourselves, which is under our control. "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." If there by ANY virtue, think on these things. Outside of the doctrine of salvation and theology, I don't see any way in which these things are opposed. Studying and thinking about virtue is always a good thing in my opinion.
  • @Bonserak23
    "out of all the Greeks the Oracle thought I was the brightest one, for I knew that I knew nothing". -Plato, I believe.
  • @StoicismLegion
    Great video! The apostle Paul was greatly influenced by Stoicism. He would engage with Stoic philosophers at the Areopagus, which was a high court where Paul delivered one of his famous Christian sermons. Many of the Stoic philosophers ended up becoming followers of Paul and his messages of Christianity. Stoicism came a few hundred years before Christianity, and Paul even quoted a student from the school of Zeno (the founder of Stoicism) in his sermon. Both Stoicism and Christianity offer peace, security, love, and teach humanitarianism. Stoics believe in "Armor Fati," or the love of fate, which is very similar to the Christian prayer of “not my will, but YOUR will be done.” You can be a Christian, you can be a Stoic, and you can be a Christian Stoic, but you can't be a Christian hating Stoicism or a Stoic hating Christianity because the viewpoints of either come to a standstill and to do one would lead to not aligning with either. Marcus Aurelius, one of the most famous Stoics, says this: “If someone can prove me wrong and show me my mistake in any thought or action, I shall gladly change. I seek the truth, which never harmed anyone: the harm is to persist in one's own self-deception and ignorance.” Equip yourself with this knowledge if you ever have to argue for one or the other. Stoicism also embraces all walks of life and sees humanity as a whole or "one". So know that you are always welcome here. We are all fighting different battles, and there is nothing new under the sun. I have become a better Christian by equipping myself with stoic knowledge and practices.
  • @sam6521
    Never clicked on a notification so fast before
  • @mustlearnmore4884
    Another incredible video. Stoic philosophy contributed to my return to my Christian faith (as did Dewayne's wise words), and I think it works very well alongside it. In fact, one of my daily prayers is 'The Serenity Prayer' which is effective in incorporating the main tenets of Stoicism. Thank you so much for your observations and advice, Mr. Noel. I just watched this with my eight year old son, and he loved it too (I've read him the Bible and Marcus Aurelius, so he appreciated this). God bless 🙏🏼❤️‍🔥✝️
  • @JohannesWOW
    never clicked so faster. looking forward to taking in your take on this matter.
  • @coolkidsclub2008
    Hey Dwayne, my name is Jack, and I just want to say thank you to you and Momma.. my wife moved out last week, and we are going to talk about us in 2 days and see where we are going to try and go with this. I needed to say thank you because both of you have helped me take a step back and assess the last couple of years of our marriage and where I have been wrong. I've watched most of your videos over the past week multiple times, and it's helped me develop better problem solving skills, communication, listening, patience, and most of all and understanding of myself and who I want to be and how I want to get there. I've only been around for a week or so, but you guys can expect me to stick around, that's for sure! I hope all is well with you and your lady and wish you both a great day!
  • @RomeoMestrovic1001
    Even when you are gone, you will live on! Thank you for sharing you wisdom
  • @MuleSkinnerWS
    "He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls." Proverbs 25 : 28 Three years ago, while battling addiction, that verse became a reassurance to me to continue studying philosophy, going to counseling, and engaging in a men's group even when a dear family member who, very much in the camp of "Only God can do it", raised concerns and objections to such things. Wisdom sought outside of oneself with humility and understanding will indeed make wise, but wisdom sought with pride and presumption will make one even more foolish than at his beginning. Excellent topic for discussion, thank you Dewayne.
  • I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this topic and sharing your wisdom.
  • @npc7687
    Tbh my whole life I grew up without a father and your videos really help me understand things that even at home I wouldn't have been taught, thank you very much❤
  • @waynelutteroty5332
    Hope u feel better sir god bless u an family! Always good to listen to u ! 🙏🏻
  • @JohannesWOW
    The power of discernment. That's what you spoke on.
  • @squward
    I’ve been thinking about this question a lot lately, this video was posted at the perfect time. Thank you sir
  • @ObeseCaligula
    Friday's with Frank was talking about stoicism this morning now I see this. It's a sign! ✨⭐
  • @TomTom-zv7ci
    We were missing you, and you never disappoint
  • I agree Dwayne , wisdom is found in different places, it rains on the just and unjust..there you are I shortened it up for ya, 😊..but I know you took a break and missed us so you extended your time so gracefully to us..❤