Anime vs. Manga: Frieren

The relaxed vibe or slowness is one aspect I love in the anime. I'm old, so maybe, I like chill.😍👍😁

I strongly - strongly disagree with your thoughts of injecting more chapters per episode. I've seen way too many anime rush to a particular endpoint, thus adapting too many chapters per episode. Frieren may have been a little slow, but in my opinion it was perfectly suited for the tone it had. I really like it when anime go to the lengths to faithfully include as much content as possible, so I would much rather have what we got, where the staff are given the time needed to beautifully adapt each panel. There is no need to accelerate the pace of the anime at all, and doing so would only come with negatives.

I believe you are biased towards manga. The barrier breaking scene for one was definitely better in the anime.

"The characters had better voices in the manga"... "Do you hear what I say? Yes? - You better get your ears checked, because nobody made a sound here" - Scott McLoud, "Understanding Comics".

I disagree with trying to squeeze more in to each episode. I feel the pacing and letting things breath in this series was perfect. It's a journey after all. I remember watching LOTR Return of the King in the theater and felt it was rushed. Watching the Extended versions if felt much better. Feel your missing the point on that. What I like about the anime over the manga is those montage shots that are so tiny in the manga that it was hard for me to read what it was vs letting the anime use the full frame. We did know that Flamme was from at least a thousand years ago because Frieren said so in episode 4 with "Even after 1000 years, I'm still dancing in the palm of my master" and that was a "daaayyymm" moment for me and it just reinforced Frieren's age along with the "one one hundredth of my life", that she's stated before. I think Serie's voice was not what I was inmagining.

Giving character voices to a silent medium is hilarious ngl

So yeah, anime > manga

As a huge fan of the Manga before the anime, the Anime enhances every aspect of the Manga, nah 2 chapters is perfect the divine revolt and El Dorado arcs to me go together perfectly and are both combat heavy so it's definitely going to be stretched out, also it gives the next season a natural stopping point and it only uses 44 chapters maybe 46, giving a potential s3 time to breathe

How do you not mention Evan Call's INCREDIBLE score as a point for the anime.

Thanks for showing the manga comparisons. However, I have to disagree on several points: 1) 2:02 Arbitrarily adapting 3 chapters per volume would probably affect the pacing of the episodes. Whoever adapted these chapters probably had an end result in mind and did a great job. The stories did not seem slow to me as you said for some episodes, and I agree with your point that ending where they did was very good for a season ender. 2) 3:46 I agree this change was very nice for the anime and Fern really did look adorable. ^_^ 3) 4:26 I like the anime change to show Fern waking up Frieren, because it shows Fern’s caring personality. Despite her disdainful, judgmental looks and mild temper tantrums, Fern cares for her party. This was further shown by how she draped Stark with her own coat (though later she held up his jacket with her fingers like they were stinky, haha). 4) 5:25 I have to disagree with you there. Though you say it doesn’t seem logical that Wirbel would be though one to attack first, and that showing Ubel attacking first shows her greater bloodlust, I think the way the anime presented it makes more sense. First of all, it’s Wirbel’s party that is ambushing Ubel’s party. It would be pretty incompetent of you if you’re ambushing but you get attacked first instead. Second, we already had a good idea of Ubel’s bloodlust in the scene with the bandits and in her joy in talking about how they’d get to fight as others would come after their bird. In addition, it immediately makes you interested in Wirbel’s character, as it seems like he’s a cold-blooded killer, and you don’t know the outcome of who’d come out on top between his and Ubel’s battle. Yes, the backgrounds, animation quality and storyboarding, and attention to detail, such as period clothing, architecture, etc., helps with the world building and helps the viewer get immersed in their world. The extending fight scenes, btw, is another reason why it’s probably a bad idea to arbitrarily adapt 3 chapters per episode… if they did that, we would have lost out on these great fight scenes. 12:49 Meh… this is subjective. The manga panel makes Ubel look more devious, but it also makes her look younger. 13:43 I think the anime version of Himmel’s face shows more complexity and maturity. The look in the anime version is one where he is holding back his feelings. He knows his elf love does not understand human feelings, empathy, etc., so he puts on a brave face. We as viewers can see that, and it makes the scene sadder and more poignant. In the manga version, we just feel bad for Himmel. 14:50 When you are talking about the voices, I wonder if you heard the original Japanese version or a dubbed version. 16:52 Edel speaks like an upperclass woman…an aristocrat. It would not match the characters that you speak of here. The subtitles or manga translation probably couldn’t convey that. 18:40 I don’t think the anime is “slow and relaxing” either… it shows realism where it needs, and the pacing is great, with a mix of action and times for character development and storytelling. As a manga reader, you’re probably flipping through the pages, and thus you set your own pace, so it may seem like it flows faster to you. As an anime viewer, I feel like the way the story is paced creates great world building and guides the viewer to experience this story. Also, maybe because you already read the manga, you knew what would happen, so scenes seemed slow to you. But as a viewer, I never thought it was slow or “slice of life” as you described.

Excellent comparison! One of the very best Manga-to-Anime adaptations I have ever seen! One critical error, was in the fight in the dungeon, where the Frieren clone uses some unknown force to blow Fern back against the wall. Fern in the anime calls it in English translation, The Height of Magic while in the manga, she calls it The Apex of Magic. This is a very significant change for the development of the later story in explaining Demon magic. While the English "height of x" suggests a maximum. If some fact is "the height of x", there is always a higher height in x+1. An Apex is not a value of any kind. It is a religious pointer to the divine. There is nothing higher than an Apex. In ancient times, an Apex was literally an arrow pointing to Heaven which then was thought to be just above our heads. Also Apex has a complex and subtle linguistic connection to Flamme. The Japanese publisher of the English translation, Shogakukan Asia, chose Apex for their English translation.

17:31 Everyone prefers the voices we have in our minds for characters over the ones they end up being given, unless they miraculously somehow sound exactly like we imagined them to sound. I personally would still put that as a draw, as nobody can compete with the voice expectations of the readers. To comment on the slow or calming feeling of the anime, I feel like that should be a point for the anime. You personally may not prefer it, but I feel like the anime is trying to portray an emotion of loss and longing that takes place at the end of something, but also at the same time trying to convey warm feelings as well. These tend to translate to slow, calming moments quite often and I feel like the anime translates these emotions very well.

The scene where the guy attacked first was done so with other similar shots for hype up the fight and make a twist later.

A lot of this is just "My interpretation of the manga was more in line with my interpretation of the manga than the anime was"

I'm commenting this before watching the video, but I honestly believe that they did a fantastic job with the Anime for Frieren. The story as told is mostly the same. The details are there from the manga, which is where most Anime stumble - there's details that fill out the world that are missing, which can be confusing if you only watch the anime. And then Frieren goes beyond on a few occasions - the dance scene is most notable, but it's far from the only example.

Frieren feels like a timeless anime. Like, if you grabbed an avid anime watcher from 2004, 1990, and 2018, I feel like they wouldn't find this anime out of its element visuals-wise

i didn't knew they adapted almost all scenes exactly as showed in the manga. this happens with all anime? they reproduce the same scenarios, composition, angles, etc? or is just in Frieren?

I watched the show first and read the manga later. I loved the pacing and the "chill" vibes of the anime. I felt that the manga was too fast paced for me. So maybe what media we consume first factors into this.

I am left with the impression that you generally prefer reading and still panels so that you can use your own imagination on the rest. Which in turn seems like it was enough to tip the scales in the manga's favor for you. Which is fine. When it comes to matters of taste, you have to know another's tastes before their opinions on the matter can mean anything to you. So please, correct me if I mistook the situation.

Ubel attacking makes less sense cause the context is an ambush. What a bad ambush if you dont get the first attack lol