Engfa & Charlotte Discuss Real vs Imagined Couple (15 Mar 2023) | ZubZone | Vicky Reacts #englot

I love the comment section. This video really had all of our thinking hats out. I love reading all the thoughts and perspectives! No matter where it leads us, the journey is already so beautiful. Englot is such a blessing. All of you are such a blessing. This community is my safe zone. Thank you everyone. ❤

from "no chance" to "if it's not p'fa, i don't want to try it with someone else" . we love the character development of charlotte 🧚

My opinion on this whole mess 😂:
- they have been exploring their relationship past the sister thing for a couple months now
- Both have insecurities. Engfa is afraid Char is just trying it out with a woman and Char is terrified to loose Engfa from her life.
- I think they are clear about each other feelings but are mainly scared about the external pressure.
- This whole live felt like them testing the waters on different scenarios. It’s not a simple relationship for them, they have contracts, they work together, etc
- Their “no status” thing is clearly to protect what they have from the public and drama. If they come out as a couple and E is seen talking with another girl for example it will be hell on earth let’s be honest. It’s already intense without them having anything specific

I understand why Engfa is so cautious about this situation because even though it is really obvious that their feelings for each other are super genuine, their relationship is now a real source of income. It is therefore quite normal for Engfa to think about the different scenarios, because if things do not go according to the fantasy of the fans, they could lose, jobs, opportunities, etc... Engfa wants to ensure a future with Charlotte and therefore takes into account all the parameters that make the success of a long-term relationship (at least that's the impression I have). She's being very responsible towards this situation, and personally, for me that's why I feel she's mad serious about Charlotte.

Someone said imagine marrying Engfa and giving her babies and Charlotte is still her number one 😂😂

P’Sun sometimes needs to stfu and stop scaring our girls😭
Also, I absolutely love how honest and open Englot is with us fans coz it feels like they really trust us and taking us along on their journey. I know obsessed fans cross the line sometimes and it gets real annoying. They may be very open with us but that doesn’t give us the right to demand a 100% view into their personal lives. What they show us is what we get and that should be enough.

In my opinion this was just them launching that they're in the getting to know each other in a romantic way phase because they couldn't keep it hidden anymore while also seeing how the fans would react(which they should just stop worrying so much about) I also understand Engfa's hesitation towards how Charlotte is so sure now about her feelings but in my opinion she has felt this way since the beginning but I think she got scared and put off her feelings for a really long time and now is just sure and confident in how she is feeling. I'm glad that they're taking it slow and if it all works out then that would be amazing but if for some reason it doesn't at least this way they can't say it's because they never tried. Loved your commentary and by the way yes Charlotte's hand was definitely chilling on Engfa's thigh for a lot of the video lol

I know Engfa loves Charlotte point blank and that's the reason why she's now questioning things. She wants Charlotte to be her forever and is scared that Charlotte might resent things. It seems as if the reason Engfa wants Charlotte to see other girls before her is again FEAR! However, I'm no Ms. Cleo but 100% don't believe deep down Engfa wants Charlotte with anyone but her! They aren't putting on an act, if they are then they need a damn Grammy, Emmy and even a BET awards! Charlotte is ready, homegirl is sprung for Engfa, I just wish Engfa would say F it, to caution, doubt, fear and not listen to P'Sun. Charlotte already said she doesn't care if shippers are out of business. Why the deep contemplation Engfa. Sometimes in life we think ourselves out of our blessings.

I wish so badly that Charlotte and Engfa watched your reactions Vicky, because you’d be hired as their real couples therapist 😂

It feels to me that this live was all about making fans understand that for now Engfa and Charlotte will be in this "No status" phase officially, and I mean it in the sense that this will be the limit we will be able to get into their personal affairs. They said a lot but the most important part it will still be how they were able to talk so openly about what they feel for each others for me. They can call it in different ways but the end result is still that what they describe is love, not the sisterly love nor the friendly love, it is clear to me that they are in love kind of Love. So I will take all this discussion as a declaration that even with this no status relationship they are pretty much together without putting a final and definitive label on it.
The last part was funny to me because Charlotte was understanding less than us about what Engfa was talking about. Also I will forever feel very proud for Charlotte to be so clear about what she feels, a few months ago I would have felt impossible to have Charlotte be so open and honest about it. And look were we are now!!

ps: by any chance can you also react to their karaoke live? it was very interesting in my opinion

At the end, Engfa really contradicted herself there. In her live she did after Charlotte’s “no chance” live, Engfa said she didn’t understand why when a couple breaks up they can’t still be in each other’s lives. She even referenced how her sister is still friends with an ex and she also referenced her own past relationship with her manager or something and how they don’t have bad blood. And at the end of this live she started by saying Yes, if we broke up we could go back to being sisters and then completely back tracked and said she doesn’t usually ever talk to her exs after they break up and that it would be hard. That got me confused. Sometimes I don’t fully follow what she’s saying because it’s contradictory (and that’s okay it just makes it harder to believe her at times 😂)

Also what is with these girls’ OBSESSION with their potential break up LIKE YOU AREN’T EVEN TOGETHER YET ONE STEP AT A TIME GIRLIES !!

Omg, i can’t believe you would also catch that swift reaction of Engfa when Charlotte said “No way…” . The way her face dropped at that and after hearing the whole sentence then relief and happiness mixed in

Vicky is like EXCUuuSE ME SIR. We shippers have a full time job for life 😂🎉

I've been through enough shipping in my life (lmao) both fictional characters and actual couples, and I have to say this is the most honest and interesting conversation I've ever heard regarding the phenomenon that is "shipping" from the actual people themselves. All that to say, they were stressing me out the whole time 😭💀

I forgot to thank you for this long reaction and analysis. The longer the video, the better.
It's funny that Charlotte tells Engfa she needs to wash the dishes if they get together,. On the last live she did with the girls reacting to episode 4, Chompu was washing her dishes because the sink was full of them 😅
By the way, Chompu is the sweetest. I love her.
Charlotte saying she has thought about Engfa being her girlfriend made me think about a theory that I have, that takes us back to the past.
And Engfa babe, I'm sorry but, I don't believe you when you say you've never thought about it.
Charlotte's face the whole time Engfa was talking about being involved romantically with other people, is very interesting. I don't know if it's just me but she looked like she didn't like that idea very much.
I think when she said "There's no one. If it's not you, I don't want to try it with anyone else" she wasn't just talking about women but in general.
I don't know, it's just a feeling.

I laughed hard when you said ” i think the Word you are looking for is love” took the word right of my mouth. Love your reactions ❤️

Based in all what they said before and after this live i think I get why they are afraid and are slow to get a status in their relationship. During the year that they have known each other they become the safe place of each other, they understand what the others feels because they are working together and they created a relationship of support and pure love that they don't want to destroy for giving a "status" and if at point they broke up they will lose their safe zone.
As Charlotte always say, she loves engfa but she is afraid that those feelings are there just because the pressure of the shippers, and as engfa said too she wants to support char and not add pressure over their relationship to her.

In the recent activities of engfa I have seen that she is not flirting with other people like before and char at the other hand is flirting really hard with engfa que she has the chance, something really different than before, so I get that their relationship evolve and is now a "relationship that we know what we are but don't want to ruin it over a status thing"

If they ever make this official you can know for sure they are serious about this relationship and taking it for life given all the variables they are considering… As a project manager I want Engfa to work with me 😂 the girl has created one of the most comprehensive risk assessments I’ve ever seen haha just need to polish it with some other variables

I love this this vid! Its comforting and makes me so happy seeing Englot at this stage in their journey. Its refreshing to see how vocal and expressive they both are now with how they feel about each other and where they both stand in each others lives without hesitation and the wall of ambiguity on how to express what they truly feel towards each other publicly has finally come down.

What makes me happier is that this conversation is happening already. Sure, a lot of us probably wish it happened sooner but now that its already happening makes me think that both are at a phase where they are both comfortable and sure with each other and their place in each other’s life.

I like the fact that they are both exploring different scenarios and how they both react to it and including their close in circle as well as the fans in the possible scenarios that would possibly come up depending on how they will decide to carry through their journey. This gives us all a good understanding o. Their thought process and how they carefully consider the different repercussions of their actions and decisions.. what to make public and what remains private… honestly I love the fact that they have brough up the idea of “what if they are secretly dating and no one knows about it” and “what if we were dating and have already broken up”. It really shows that they really put a lot of thought and value into whatever relationship they have rather than just giving in to what the fans and shipper wants.

It seems to me that more than their feelings, they put a very high priority on how their actions and decisions will affect each of them individually and Englot as a brand and its effect to their careers long after their MGT contract expires. They are threading carefully which is really a good thing and very strategic in a sense as they are fully aware of what the demands are and how this also affects what and how they feel towards each other.

Seeing this makes me hopeful that Englot has so much more ahead and we will see them stronger, braver and a lot more solid than how weve seen them in the past year. Im very excited for the both of them and fearless forecast is that it will only get better here on out!

Thanks for this reaction vid, Vicky!! 😊🙏🏼💜

49:31 This quote appeared in the period after Englot's Concert
1/ ( Englot's Concert: Englot shared that they will care about each other's feelings and are not afraid of other people's thoughts...) And when participating in the series, Englot come into contact and understand each other better.
2 / Since then ( Englot gets closer every time livestream and take pictures together... i mean: Englot more comfortable with each other than before)
3/ And from here.. A few people who just found out about Englot recently, they didn't know what Englot had to go through before, so that the two could be comfortable with each other in front of an audience like today...And they say Englot is a fan server... for money... 😊