Did AI Just End Music? (Now it’s Personal) ft. Rick Beato

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Published 2024-04-30
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Throughout history, creating a complete piece of music has always been a human process. There have been attempts to compose and render songs using computers before, but frankly they weren't great.

Today, that all changes with two AI music platforms. Udio and Suno. In this episode, we'll take a look at both and talk to experts like Rick Beato to see what this means for the future of the music industry.

Full Rick Beato Episode:    • Why AI Can Never Truly Replace All Mu...  

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All Comments (21)
  • @Dexter01992
    "This is all backwards. AI was supposed to do my chores while I enjoy doing what I like. It was not supposed to do what I like so that I can focus on the chores." - A comment I saw some time ago.
  • "I can't wait till computer take over all the terrible jobs so that humans can spend their time doing creative things" 'Oh, turns out the creative things are actually way easier for the computers to do. Looks like you'll have to keep the terrible jobs going'
  • @stoneagedjp
    Considering how low the bar is now for a no. 1 Billboard hit, it's not too surprising that AI will be able to compete.
  • @phoenix5054
    I'm not surprised. People claim they want something new, but all they really want is a variation / derivative of something they already know and want. AI is amazing at that.
  • @MagikarpMan
    Video game music is gonna be 99% ai generated in the future
  • So ironic how "art" was the main subject people said that Robots would never be able to replicate. We ended up getting AI art even before commercial humanoid robots. Edit: That's some spicy comment section right there 🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶
  • @kabongpope
    So as far as I can see, all these GenAI/LLM applications are for exactly one thing: getting creative work without paying an artist to do it, while also using millions of examples of actual artists' work to train the machine, also without paying them. GG.
  • @kevincook5837
    I’ve been playing sax since 1968. I wonder how well AI will be able to improvise John Coltrane’s Giant Steps live in front of an audience.
  • @ABC-bm7kl
    As a music professional who has scored a lot of TV series that were (are) very well known, I can say that sampling technology absolutely impacted the live recording scene significantly in Los Angeles. My first two Disney series in the late 90s were with live players, anywhere from 15 to 46. By 2001 the sampling technology had progressed to the point where Disney stopped using orchestras for their TV series. Even so the technology was such that Orchestration for live players and Synthestration for samples in a MIDI studio were two different ‘arts’ or processes. That started to change when VSL came in the scene and you could, to a large extent, orchestrate for samples the way that you orchestrated for a live ensemble. Today sampling technology is so good that even when live orchestras are used in film, the samples often remain in the final mix. So the drum machine story that Rick (who is awesome) mentioned is much more complex than the simple, ‘drummers started playing like drum machines and their jobs were safe’ narrative. Having written that, I have no plans to buy a T-shirt of my favorite AI musician. The human act of creating art will always matter for the simple reason that we ourselves are not machines.
  • Maybe as everyone gets dumbed down people that can actually play and write music will become rare but held in high regard. I was at a vinyl store yesterday and it was packed with young people…the human spirit will push back and crave for something real…
  • @TwstedTV
    Every time I see a video or read an article about AI going to dominate or take over the music industry, I literally come to tears. And I am not embarrassed to say that. 90% of my life I've been in the music industry and been in the music industry all my life. Music industry got me out of very hardship times. And if it were not because of music and me being in the music industry, I would have parted this life a long time ago. It was what kept me going in life. And now lately I have been watching as the music industry are getting more into AI music. I am afraid that within 10 to 20 years, every piece of music created will be created by someone in their apartment or basement in their moms house pressing 1 button, or a few keystrokes on a keyboard, and they release music to the masses. To the point that eventually they will win Grammy's on music they in reality did not create. I am watching the music industry crumble. I come from the disco days and of when Salt N Peppa first release their single "Push It" when I went to college, Madonna "Isla Bonita" first released. White Snake "Is This Love", Diana Ross "Upside Down", Journey "Faithfully", Starship "Sara", Foreigner "I don't want to live without you", and other artists like Phil Collins, Tears For Fears, Chaka Chan, Richard Marx, and so many others. I am watching the world k!!ll the music industry. It's bad enough that the world in 2024 is putting out nothing but garbage & noise, and most talents out there are null and void compared to the talents of the 80's. That now people have decided to make matters even worse and k!!ll the music industry with AI generated music. I am just in tears, literally in tears. 😢 Humans are literally burning the world. That is what it feels like.
  • @LukeFaulkner
    I asked Udio to create a track in the style of Chopin and got a message saying "We do not generate artist likeness without permission, we have replaced Chopin with: romanticism, western classical music..." Then it proceeded to write something that within 2 seconds reminded me of the Nocturne Op. 62 No. 2. Incredibly impressive, but that text doesn't seem to mean a lot.
  • @kyryllo
    Just tried Udio with one of my poems. This is uncanily ridiculous! I have seen and used LLMs and image generation a lot before, but this absolutely blew my mind.
  • @MacroVactrol
    It will never replace the EXPERIENCE OF CREATING art. It will ALWAYS be respected and considered cool & awesome when someone or a group can actually play and perform. Actually more than ever
  • @shortymcsteve
    You know, there’s something that wasn’t mentioned here that’s going to be a real issue. The judge ruled that AI art can’t be copyrighted, but you absolutely know there’s going to be artists out there who will generate an entire song with AI and re-record it themselves to get around this. Lots of major artists have song writing teams behind them.. but I can see those people getting replaced pretty quickly. I work in this industry and it’s just depressing really. Never would’ve thought I’d be questioning if my favourite artists have generated a song or wrote it themselves without any AI assistance.
  • With the endless uploading to the internet, we have uploaded our souls.
  • @nedim_guitar
    I've tried Udio. It's impressive. I generated a few song parts in which singer sounds like Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins, Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters, the singer from Franz Ferdinand... The music was very close to how those bands sound too. They've definitely scanned copyrighted material.