Why Harley Riders are the WORST Riders.

Published 2023-08-04
Why is it that Harley Davidson riders seem to struggle with their riding skills more than riders of other brands of motorcycles? Is that an accurate statement or a bad stereotype?

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All Comments (21)
  • @jamesmcgrath1952
    I'm now 71 years old. While I still ride (I have 5 bikes), I no longer ride Harleys. 500 or so Lbs is my limit these days. Hey, I have to be realistic. To quote Dirty Harry, "A man has to know his limitations. " 😊 Ride safe, everybody.
  • @IzzoWingChun
    Honda guy here. I, personally, don’t judge other riders unless they are absolutely reckless. But Harley riders seem to judge anyone who’s not on a Harley.
  • @peterhessedal8539
    My friend and I used to argue about this with his dad and brother all the time. His dad used to complain that sports bikes are too dangerous. We responded, that they handle better, turn better, brake better than larger bikes. Its rider attitude, not the bike that makes it dangerous.
  • @terrythornock6468
    Excellent briefing Sir, as usual!!!!! I’m 63 next month and a 100% Disabled Veteran and Above Knee Amputee due to a car turning into me while on my Yamaha Road Star 1600 on June 18, 2005. I had ridden 17 years. I stayed off the bikes for 5 years and then bought my 2011 HD ROAD KING CLASSIC and had a Pingel Shifter put on it. I still ride that bike today, some 58,500 miles later. I believe every word you said!!!!!
  • @johneverett3947
    Been riding for 55+ years and you’re 100% correct. Any time a friend or family member decided to get a motorcycle I pushed for classes, a midsize motorcycle and part of the purchase price was full gear. Have a brother in law who decided he wanted a Harley and is one of those people who knows everything. I said NO get something small and the gear, did he listen of course not. First time out of his driveway, thankfully with a helmet but unfortunately with no leathers. He took out two parked cars and got road rash from his ankle to his shoulder on his right side. Two weeks in the hospital and six months of misery healing. Not the way to start. And what is it with all these cruiser riders and passengers that insist on short helmets, t shirts and shorts, makes me cringe. 😮😮
  • @robertclark9
    I rode Harleys for 30yrs. After I retired, and because of numerous arthritic issues, I bought a Suzuki 650 Burgman Executive. The CVT is perfect for me. Just twist and go, with plenty of power. Younger riders like to make fun, but don’t realize that my first bike was a 65 Electra Glide I purchased in 1975 at age 20. I was riding Hogs, when their Dads were only a twinkle in their grandads eye. I simply love to ride. Whatever bike I’m on.
  • @2vford241
    Never had a problem with Harley until I took my rider class threw them, told an instructor I rode a drz400 because I ride offroad often, he swore up and down I should be on a pan-america, a 540lb bike, he had no idea if I was a beginner and said that bike would be much better for my type of riding (drz400 weighs 320lbs), also all the Harley guys who have said the drz isn't a "real" bike, last I checked riding offroad takes more skill than most overweight, bar hopping Harley d-bags have
  • @JohnSmith-yk3dp
    As a motorcycle police officer, I see all brands of large cc motors (and smaller cc) crash due to lack of formal training. MSF is a starting point or an avenue to get your endorsement. When you increase the size of motors, increase your level of training. The advanced traing classes start from about $500.00 up to $1500.00. You just spent $25 k and up for any top cruiser, spend a couple grand on training. Isn't your safety or life worth that?
  • @flexjoe
    Amen. I ride an Indian. At 19, I totalled one bike. The elderly lady who cut me off said she never saw me. At this time I realized that the only person responsible for keeping me (and my bike) in one piece... is me. After this, I take absolutely NOTHING for granted. Thanks for the info and Ride safe everyone!
  • @markanderson5077
    I concur. I was an MSF coach for 12 years. We recommended new riders buy a used metric bike in the 500-750cc range and ride for a year. At the six month point, take the BRC II or Advanced class. After a year, the metric bike could be sold or traded for what you have in it. Harley's low-end torque is unforgiving and a challenge for a new rider. Harley does their own version of the MSF BRC on their Street 500's. Personally, after taking the MSF course in 1991, I rode a Sportster for a year, then traded up to an FXR. I rode it for 15 years then went to a Street Glide, and now an Ultra Limited. I take a course every year, the last with Tampa, FL PD, their weekend police MC course. I also practice breaking and swerving every time I go out. Skills are perishable.
  • @dyates6380
    I can't deny this. I have a Harley and I was a brand new rider. I took my time BIG time. Mine is a 2005 soft tail that I got for a great price, and I'm a big guy, but I was very cognizant of the fact I was NEW and had to go very slowly. I have been riding three years now, and I still am very aware of the size and weight of the bike. Sir, you are so correct.
  • @darrinhorowitz113
    I’m 72 but when I can’t ride safely I’ll quit. I been on bikes since 1968. I started on very small cc’s. Great advice.
  • @brushcreek
    A good friend and coworker wanted a bike and had never ridden. He bought the Harley, had a friend drive it home into his garage, took the MSF to get his license and never left his neighborhood. He was scared to death to ride it. 3 years later he sold it with less than a few hundred miles.
  • When I took the MSF class I took it at the local Harley dealership, we did it on the Street 500. After passing the course I wanted something the size of the Street 500 for many of the reasons you stated in this video. The only problem was that at the dealership they keep telling me I didn't want the 500 and kept pushing me to a larger cruiser that I didn’t want. Because of that I ended up on a Honda.
  • @jamesstead1496
    I ride a Triumph Rocket III Roadster . It's been my bike since ' 16 . I'm 61 now and still have a heartbeat for the bike. I've had some instances where I have had idiots and animals intervene with my riding and I was just lucky to get ahead of chaos with them. Your videos have already made me more aware of potential problems with the growing class of idiots on the road these days. I think everyone should take a look at what you offer. Keep up the work you do. I certainly appreciate it !!
  • @RPO767
    Very good summary and well presented too. Great points that I absolutely agree with.Thank you. When I learned to ride back around 1970 a 350 was a big bike and a 500 or 750 was huge. I learned, fell, raced, wrenched and crashed on small bikes 125-350cc for many years (some before I could get a license) before I could afford or even considered a larger motorcycle. It seemed like a natural progression and I beleive it was ultimately the safest. I'm actually returning to smaller vintage bikes now. It seems that a lot of folks don't even consider smaller bikes but they can easily be as much fun or more so if ridden in the proper environment. Ride safe...have fun.
  • A Harley CEO once stated "Harley doesn't just sell motorcycles, they sell a lifestyle.". And their membership usually conforms to the group. I know of an independent mechanic that avoids Harleys, he says Harley owners have a mindset he doesn't want to deal with. Godspeed to everyone.
  • @1966impala100
    I rode my 883 sportster for 15 years. I’ve heard all kinds of remarks about it. When it came time to ride long distance most of my friends would bail out regardless of what they rode. I’ve rented large touring bikes and they were great on the highway, but 90 percent of my riding isn’t that. I love my intermediate bike, heritage Softail.
  • @FreeSwimmer
    48 years ago I got my 1st motorcycle. A 1973 Yamaha125 Enduro that always stayed in the dirt.. I then got a 1979 Husky 250 Dirt Bike and then was racing a 1985 Honda CR 250 Dirt Bike .. My 1st streetbike was a 1991 Harley Softail Custom. I felt the difference, obviously, but had attained the skills to adapt quickly. 9 Harleys later and still loving it. Hope to be riding many more years. Glad to hear your still enjoying 2 wheels.. Happy Labor Day to all !!