Military Laws Broken: Top Gun (with real JAG)
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Published 2022-05-25
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All Comments (21)
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Objection: Top Gun was released in 1986. The California law that prohibits riding a motorcycle without a helmet didn't come into effect until 1992.
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Some of the best callsigns I've heard of: "Blaze" – Caught on fire in the base kitchen "Headless" – Pilot's last name was Horstman "Hurricane" – Pilot's first name was Katrina "Legend" – Failed an exam that no one had ever failed in history "Vodka" – Pilot’s name was Smirnoff
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Seeing a suited up lawyer (deputy DA at that) (and a vet) say "This is cringe" really tickles my funny bone for some reason.
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Objection: I am a current Navy JAG and the folks at TOPGUN are Navy pilots. There is no official Navy Regulation that forbids intimate relationships between two people at the same command, unless they are committing Fraternization (e.g. leader/subordinate, officer/enlisted, etc...). The only real problem in a relationship between Maverick and Iceman would have been that same sex relationships in the military were not allowed at the time.
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When I was on a Tiger cruise on the Nimitz one of the pilots call signs was “Wiki”. When I asked how he got that I was told, and I quote, “ he’s like the website, he knows everything but he isn’t always right”
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Fun Fact: In the end credits of the movie, the military pilot consultants for the film are listed by their names, ranks and callsigns. It threw me off as a teenager, because the pilots in the movie all have cool callsigns like "Maverick" and "Iceman" and the real pilots are like, "Bozo" and "Dipshit."
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The amount of sarcasm demonstrated by this Marine is so perfect. Every other sentence, and said with the straightest face every time.
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Between the Two Top Gun movies, Maverick was actually charged, but thanks to a stellar defense from his JAG lawyer, Lt. Kaffee (of "A Few Good Men" fame) , he was cleared of all charges.
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As a retired Sailor, the thing that bugged me about the celebration of the crew on the flight deck is, first, like you say, they have abandoned their posts and becoming FOD on the flight line, but second... the enlisted people up there in the colored jerseys would have ZERO clue what happened in the air. Aircraft go up, aircraft come down, none of the information about what a squadron does gets back to the ship's crew.
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There's something about a real DA organically using the word "cringe" I can't properly put it into words, but there's something about it
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My dad served aboard Enterprise during filming and was ordered to be part of that end scene crowd. He was completely pissed off about it as he had to leave the aircraft he was actively working on up on the flight deck.
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Talking about Callsigns: In the RAF (British Air Force), Ewan McGregor's brother is/was a pilot. His Callsign is/was "Obi-Two"
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My former CO's call sign was Nightmare (Harrier pilot). Cool call sign? Sure. My confidence that the story behind it is actually horribly embarrassing to him on a very personal level? 100%.
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Bring this guy back!
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I did my Navy flight school as an NFO in 1988-1989. Some of the instructors there had been advisors or had worked on the original Top Gun. Their consensus was that Maverick would have lost his wings after the first flyby through a full pattern and the movie would have ended right there.
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My best friend older brother call name was "Badger"....cause he poked one with a stick(it didn't end well for him). His friend he served with, call name was "Bunker" cause he broke his arm falling out of a bunk bed.
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Top Gun was basically a recruiting ad for the US military. I wonder how many people joined up only to realize they couldn't do all this cool stuff.
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When I was a kid. We thought Ice man was an asshole. But he is 100% the only person with the balls to tell Maverick he's an asshole.
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One of the LTC I had in college had the callsign "Doc" which he earned when his wife went into labor at dinner, and he delivered his child himself. Only Pilot I know with a dope callsign
