Dragonflight Ret Paladin - Blizzard asleep at the wheel??

I know what you’re thinking - another Ret video?? Yes.

- Make Consecration move with the Paladin - Take Consecration off the GCD ( literally no reason for it to be on GCD it doesent even generate HP) - Take Exorcism off the GCD ( no reason for it to be on GCD it doesent even generate HP) Id settle for no CD and GCD on consecration but I just feel moving consecration would be overall much better. These are simple fixes that can definitely be done before DF launch. Im still pissed LAOTL and Spellwarding is gone I hope the they just add these simple changes AT THE VERY LEAST.

Don't know why they didn't just give Ret the swirling hammer Divine Storm replacement Talent from Legion in place of Consecration, that one at least did dmg around the Paladin instead of on the ground. And yes, I would take WoD Ret paladin over what we got in Legion any day of the week because it was fun to play, had buttons to press and Enchanced/Empowered Seals talent was cool af to mess around with, Seals really should return to Paladin, they are far more iconic than Consecration to the point they had the Paladin in BC trailer apply one in basically the first scene.

We can have the upgraded final verdict and upgraded Divine Storm.... I think ret paladins are just fine

It’s so hard to choose a main because so many other classes and spec trees are so good. It’s so painful that paladin is such ass. Hope they get away from the consicration build eventually. Or make it move with you.

ret is broken in dragonflight, it can spec into holy and press aura mastery or prot for spellwarding thats big utility :)

blizzard hate paladins....but much more hate rets

That brez tho...

I actually like the wackamole wod playstyle. But I do agree that I dislike the consecrate ability and I hope I'm not forced to use this often in ret as you say. I liked that it was just a filler "push this when you literally have nothing else to do" on SL. It's an example of blizz listening to the 1% of players that have a weird emotional attachment to old, dated abilities and call them "iconic." If you want it to be iconic, don't just call it that, rather make it that. Weak damage over time, static ground effect, long cd, and old animation = consecrate.

At this point im constantly tweeting Ion and Holinka.

Who's the dev in charge....I just wanna talk..

I also wonder why sword of justice has 5-6 talents exclusively for that ability. so lack luster.

i wish the used the old concept of fallen sword from diablo, which was scrapped some expansions ago, having a somewhat kinda of teleportation to a set location, would be a gamechanger for the class, and above all, it would be FUN, i think games are supposed to be fun, and i still dont get it why every melee class can move at light speed or teleport, jump (maybe not dks), and yet paladins are always slow with a horse that nobody likes that takes 2 gdcs for it to work properly (if you have to freedom yourself lol). its like: the paladin community DOESNT LIKE THIS, blizzard goes: BUT WE FEEL ITS COOL TO HAVE A HORSE...horse is cool, horse is paladin, leave the horse, just lower the duration, cause as it is on shadowlands it could become a problem (lmao) tbh, its been like 12/15 years that i main ret, i've got tired of complaining, every single xpac i would play the PTR, i would carefuly make a list and say every single aspect of the class felt good, and what could be better, people were making the forums full of constructive feedbacks, it was good till after like a thread that had dunno, maybe 2k replies with a LOT of good feedbacks (i don't remember that if this was on legion or BFA), we finally got a blue post from blizzard, and i remember like it was tomorrow, it said: "its great to see so many paladins coming together! paladins are always known about their heroic stories and such!" people were ENRAGED, like i've never ever seen before, 2k replies, feedbacks, completely ignored with a generic non sense blue post response, this was the turning point for me, after this one, i stopped posting and trying to give feedback, it was the last drop. but yeah, thats the kind of treatment ret paladins get for having divine shield, a stun and healing (not like that is exclusive anymore, nowadays every class have some kind of healing and a crapload of defensives)... feels really bad that blizzard rides the hate wagon that was build up from long time ago, like a stigma that every paladin in general have to carry, being the most hated class in the history of this game, ret can't be strong cause the community doesn't approve, they enjoy ret being weak, cause they die to paladins on world pvp, or instanced pvp... herp derp i've got one shotted by a full geared ret, cry cry, please nerf, bla bla bla, always, always like that. i don't really remember the last time that ret made top4 on those so called raid tier lists, maybe in icecrown on wrath, legion was good too, but the fun component was better than the meters, but still, it was pretty fun, felt good to play, in the end, always middle of the pack or lower, then after some non sense nerfs (like divine radiance that was nerfed 2 days before it went live in retail), they buff the class to make sure we don't drop to bottom 5, and not complain more, cause they would be busy patching warlocks so that they would continue to be op, even through nerfs, lmao now what i just don't get, is why we should need to grab like 2/3 nodes to make one skill the same that it was on shadowlands, as baseline skills, it should just be embedded on our kits, the skil trees should've been only some modifications to the baseline kits to make it better on cleave, aoe, pvp situations, but welp, people wanted this system back, guess the dude that takes care of the paladin skill trees never played the class, cause man this is just a mess, everything is all over the place, and its just sad, i had high hopes, i'm not jumping off a cliff cause there is still time, but i'm tired, every single xpac is like this, lets see what the future holds

They nerfed art of war cuz of the tier set. Which is bad design imo. Makes the whole spec suffer for the abysmal design of the tier set. They also got this big push towards consecration for some reason. Its a boring button to press just /yawn.

The guy responsible for paladin (yeah, its just one person to any class and in some cases is 1 person for 2 classes) dont know nothing about the class, every fking expansion the class is worse and worse

So it’s blizzard being blizzard…..tone deaf

NO. There is absolutely no reason we should have to compromise when the excuse they have given us is invalidated by the existence of MONK, DRUID, SHAMMAN at the top of the charts and playable classes. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT come to me and say we are nerfed because of your healing and support skills when those three also heal and in some cases have more value in utility. Any of those three in less gear currently can do similar dps with less effort invested. I shouldn't have to reroll and I shouldn't have to fit into your narrow box.

you know... these ret paladin doom and gloom videos are really funny to me as a Ret player from pretty much the beginning of vanilla. Why you ask?... easy i will tell you.. over the xpacs i have seen WORSE paladin changes over the years and the version we have now.... is MUCH BETTER then other versions in the past. right now in my opinion with almost 18 years of experience playing this class. The trees right now are probably the best they have ever been. like i don't know what people are expecting Ret is a DPS tree not a support tree because if you want ret to be a support tree then you have to say good bye to dps.... its plain and simple there are ENOUGH talents in both trees to passively boost your damage to SURPASS the nerfs like LOOK at the full tree instead of picking abilities and whining "OH i have to play only this way" furthermore there is MORE to the game then stupid PVE raids, so let that sink in.....

I mained Ret since Classic its All I play,I hate the new talents it feels like a Nerfed version of what we have in shadowlands, The necro ability is crap, I want the Vanq hammer so we can control the proc, Divine toll is Useless in pvp without ringing clarity ,id rather have blessings like holy got, Long arm of the law is a MUST, and plz get rid of Justicar Vengeance and put Divine protection there so we can have shield of vengeance and Divine protection since we Lost Spell warding, they are Both weak we need defence we are wet noodles, this might be the first time in 17+ years I might change mains it really SAD

The problem is obvious to me,it's the dev!The dev is an idiot who thinks himself a genius,that's why there's ZERO communication. He's probably thinking of us like peasants who can't understand his major intellect. Meanwhile,look at rogue/shaman/warrior,where the devs communicate with the audience and their talent trees are amazing,because they're not afraid to take ideas from the playerbase!They're open to letting players who play the class,help them! I can just imagine the pala dev flailing his arms like a baby ''Waaah,the steed is awesome,waaah,consecration is amazing,i'm always right!! lalalaala i'm not listening to you''