The Secret to Finding Happiness from Pema Chödrön, Buddhist Nun | Ten Percent Happier & Dan Harris

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Pema Chödrön on the secret to finding happiness in life, dealing with difficult people, setting boundaries, and keep a sense of humor in the face of our human foibles and failings. In this episode we talk about: - How to deal with difficult people and set boundaries
- Having a sense of humor about our own foibles and failings
- Keeping a sense of ok-ness in the face of whatever happens
- Why coming from a place of love doesn’t preclude us from getting angry or standing up for what we believe in
- Keeping a sense of humor when we’re setting intentions or taking a vow so we don’t set ourselves up for failure
- The actual language of the Bodhisattva vow and why admitting how vast and impossible it is to achieve can actually be empowering
- Why putting others first doesn’t mean leaving yourself out of the equation
- How healing yourself can affect your relationships with other people and create a virtuous circle
- Taking a “one person at a time” approach to suffering

Pema Chödrön was born Deirdre Blomfield-Brown in New York City. In her mid-thirties, Ani Pema met and studied with Lama Chime Rinpoche, becoming a novice nun in 1974 in London. She received ordination from His Holiness the Sixteenth Karampa during that time. Pema first met her root guru, the teacher with whom she had the most profound connection, Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche, in 1972, and she studied closely with him until his death in 1987. In 1984, at the behest of Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche, Ani Pema moved from Boulder, Colorado to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia to be the director of Gampo Abbey. She currently teaches throughout the United States and Canada and continues her studies and meditative retreat under the guidance of Venerable Dzigar Kongtrul Rinpoche.

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00:00:00 Introduction to Pema Chodron, Buddhist Nun on Happiness Strategy
00:00:36 The bodhisattva vow
00:11:30 Benefits of meditation apps
00:13:59 The value of breathing
00:16:21 How to deal with people upsetting you
00:17:58 Buddhist teacher called Shanti Deva
00:20:47 Bad feelings Mr. T aka Former President Trump
00:23:24 Buddhist boundaries and door mats

All Comments (21)
  • @caroledrury1411
    And May I add that Pema has written countless books that have helped people greatly. My favorites were When Things fall apart, Start where you are, Taking the leap, No time to lose. When I was in a terrible situation, Buddhism helped me to be quiet. Even if I couldn’t find compassionate words, at least I learned not to react.
  • @MARS1111
    Pema Chodron is My North Star.😇💜
  • @ravenwild5184
    Pema is a National Treasure! Thank you. In a world of Spiritually arrogant people and Teachers her humility and humanness is so valuable. For anyone new to Pema I recommend any and all her books. So grateful to hear her health is better. ❤🎉
  • @dharmasista
    I'm sooo grateful for this interview, Dan. Pema Chodron offered me life-saving teachings when I was very sick and depressed many years ago. She's such a genuine, powerful, loving, and humble teacher. Joseph Goldstein was my first dharma teacher - also wonderful. Dan, I resonate with your sincere, no BS interview style - so much more trustworthy than anything fawning. Heartfelt thanks!
  • @MayaLove1976
    Reminds me of a movie I saw about the black movement for equality in America (I’m in Australia) and the black men and women went into the cafes, buses, everywhere there was segregation, sat down and refused to move. They got spat on, kicked, abused and they stood their ground without reacting, without violence. And they soon after won ❤ Love eventually wins. Another note, one of the first spiritual lessons I adopted was self- responsibility- being responsible for your own reactions, wounds, sensitivities, hurts and dealt with them first before ever bringing any issues up with other people. It has been the forefront to my healing/awakening journey. ❤
  • @japplesin
    Pema Chodron is so real and down to earth. I read many of her books and hold them dear. Like many, her teachings get me through hard times. So grateful the world has someone like her. Thank you Pema.
  • @roslynr9767
    Pema has saved my life many times. She embodies the teachings and is a boddisatva. Her presence and voice is so kind and caring and humane. I love you, Pema. Thank you for all you have done.
  • Giving and receiving are the same. As we work to create light for others, we naturally light our own way. 🙏♥️☮️
  • @sarahwalton2297
    I think that “putting others above our own needs” is generally unhealthy. Maybe it’s a good practise for people who have practised being selfish the majority of their lives but for someone like myself who put everyone else’s wants before my own needs and ended up burning out and getting panic attacks, it’s been a necessary process to learn how to listen to my inner guidance and honour my own needs ❤ my devotion is to doing my inner work for “the highest good of all” and the “all” is an understanding (experiential deep knowing) that when I heal myself, I’m healing the world because we’re all connected ❤
  • @Sacredmoonwoman
    I will sit the the suffering within myself so that I can sit with the suffering of others - I translated that as ❤❤
  • @caryzigrossi9348
    Almost twenty years ago a coworker gave me “Don’t bite the hook” by Pema Chodron and that was my introduction to Buddhist thinking. Eventually I got to a dharma group and on that first day a monk was there and people were taking refuge vows. Boy, did I not know what I was getting into! 😊I still struggle daily with not saying the angry, sarcastic, snippy thing, but at night I have a place of meditation and calm to return to. Thank you, Pema and so glad to see that you are looking well!
  • @newpilgrim
    Many, many thanks for this thoughtful interview with a teacher who continues to make a big difference in my life. 🙏📿
  • @M00Nature
    Thank you for bringing Pema to us. Your questions were excellent and really helped to clarify the Bodhisattva vow. Very inspiring!
  • @jwh8228
    Pema is such a beautiful person. So grateful for her.
  • Peace Love Kindness Respect, the more you give the more you get. Start with yourself because you deserve it 💖 🙏
  • @andrearenee7845
    Pema is beautiful. Her books have made a profound difference on my journey. She is so down to earth, and kind. I adore her. 😇 And is there anything else you wish to say?
  • @Guddilove801
    I just loved this interview view with pema chodron. She is the epitome of wisdom imho. I will go over this many times and glean over the nuggets she has shared. Thank you Jordon. You are a great interviewer. 🙏. The end was brilliant.
  • @goodnatureart
    Ever since I read When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron, she has been a big help in starting my meditation and way of seeing life. If we start every day with the first principle non harm, what then must we do? Well-- over 2500 years people have been saying what works via the 4 Noble Truths. I'd love to see 10% interview teachers in shorts format to speak about how they cope with genocide, climate chaos, overpopulation, migration-- the whole project of finding out there are no others. Calm joy is at the center of each of us, if we can bear sitting in silence to find out. I think this meditation is a construct of people moving all day, and vast periods of boredom. Today I think our devices make sitting and being bored so difficult. And if we can't stand being bored, can we cultivate a mind full of peace?
  • @rubywilcox2159
    My personal vocabulary has been upgraded as a result of this marvelous interview: "Positive selfishness, cheezie upward spiral, and toxic generosity" are now added. Long a follower of the teachings of Pema, and a new devotee of Ten Percent Happier . . . this is a very good morning. Thank you most genuinely. Oh and I want to add one more thing. Ten years ago I became a Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor. In the State of Oregon, self-care is an ETHICAL MANDATE of licensure for this discipline. This has since stuck with me that I cannot teach what I do not know and demonstrate.
  • @Razzmatazlady
    I was listening to Pema's video podcasts and noticed this at the end so decided to watch. I enjoyed this so much...your interview with her was excellent. Thank you. So now I've subscribed to 10% Happier, as well!