BEST Lever Action Cartridge - .30-30 vs .45-70

Ron Spomer Outdoors
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Published 2024-05-18
Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors! What is the best lever action cartridge ever made? What's the best one for you to own and use? Whether that's for fun or for hunting deer and elk or maybe even dangerous game. Joseph von Benedikt answers these questions in this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.


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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion – the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me – from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.

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All Comments (21)
  • @lawrencelewis1036
    I purchased a Ruger No.3 in 45/70 years ago from an elderly gentleman, that he bought new in1977 He also had the original box. Great rifle!
  • @dr.froghopper6711
    I keep hoping to see 35 Remington as an intermediary. It fits in nicely between the two you describe. Good show Señor!
  • @davidabernathy3197
    I just got back from the Range today and I met an older gentleman who shoots nothing but lever actions. I got to have a good conversation with him about his lever action experience and he was intrigued by my military arm experience. I told him if I were to get a lever action it would be in either of the two calibers featured in this video. it was really cool for two people from two different ages to get along with differing perspectives on firearms.
  • @unluckyhunter4321
    I got a bear with a 30-30 170grn core lokt 2 weeks ago. Did a great job. 40 yard shot, double lung, in and out. Went 40 yards and piled up
  • @robbieatvic
    This is probably the best comparison vid I've seen, no bias just the basic hunting facts. From a lever action fan I thank you 👏
  • @clintoncampbell236
    30-30 is still half the price of 45-70 and it’s what I got . So I’m going to stick with it.
  • @True70woodsman
    I went back and forth when I decided to get my first Ruger made Marlin lever action. I landed on the 30-30 because I hunt in the southeast and it’s what I killed my first whitetail with. Love the comparison. Great video
  • @paulegerold
    I couldn't decide between the 30-30 and 45-70, so I got both! Both Henrys, love them.
  • @tomw4338
    I left the channel for a while and when I come back I find that Ron has apparently found the fountain of youth.
  • @auburnfolsom
    I'd like to see you do a video on the Winchester 32 Special rifle & cartridge. Always enjoy your videos & information.
  • @user-fj7vm9fz2h
    With the “new” weights in bullets today it seems that the 30-30 has gotten a new lease on life. They are both still 200 yds and in caliber rifles.
  • @joec33
    Great in depth review, please keep them coming !
  • @stevedriscoll2539
    Good presentation. I went with my Dad to look at some Winchester lever actions. The guy had several 30-30's and a big octagonal barrel Winchester in 45-70. They were all very old guns but in excellent shape. I never forgot that big 45-70. I wish my Dad could have bought it.
  • @worry2much
    I've fired bullet weights from a 259 gr wadcutter to 520 gr flat nose out of my 1885 and 1874 Sharps using both smokeless and black powder. The Sharps is a lot more comfortable to shoot with heavy bullets due to its heavier weight 14 lbs with a Malcolm style scope.
  • @lynandhenrymeyerding3392
    The Winchester Model 1886 was also adopted by the US Army. The 45-70 caliber GOVT was also the round used in Gatling guns, most popularly with an Ackles feed. I had a friend who was a range master at the start of WWII at a major army base. They didn't have enough current issue rifles to train all the troops, but they had a whole bunch of old 1886 Winchesters, so they used these to train troops in "heavy calibers." He claimed they had some rifles there with 300K rounds through them that still worked well and shot accurately.