The Taylor Piranha Vs Yamaha 8310z and my journey back to trumpet.

Mate , I struggle like hell on the trumpet. I played fanatically for 25 years ad it just will not play. I have turned to sax and bass and realise trumpet is just no fun whats so ever. Its completely unforgiving ad treacherous. Spent a fortune on lessons and gear. I think its important if you try to learn trumpet : you learn another instrument (not brass related). Chances are you wont be able to play it to an acceptable level or have a nice sound. Further other musicians will not want to join in with you. Unlike other instruments ; trumpet makes, and mouthpeices do almost nothing. The trumpet is you and you alone. If you have an unforgiving anatomy then its like buying a faulty instrument. Faulty instruments can be fixed, your anatomy cannot. If you realise you cant play at least you have the other instrument to fall back on. Having tried playing other instrument groups I massively and I mean massively regret ever coming across one .

Thank you. I am also a comeback trumpet player. I'm 61 and I was off for 23 years. I played a 6310z for years before I quit playing. I recently got another 6310z recently and I'm back on the hunt!! I love my 6310z and I'm sure the 8310z is every bit as enjoyable and sweet as my older model Yamaha Bobby Shew horn. You sound great on your Z. I would say though, I prefer your sound on the Taylor, as well. Very nice. Thank you, Keep it up.

You can change the sound massively by changing your mouthpiece. My standard is a Bach/Blessing 3C. I tried a 3D and it was a huge change in sound. I didn't like it, ultimately. The Shew Jazz is about halfway between the two. People play on all kinds of mouthpieces, some like big tubby 1.25's, some like 7C's, Louis Armstrong was said to play "whatever came in the box" with the new trumpets the trumpet companies kept sending him. I heard Chet Baker played a 6A so I tried to get a 6A, was able to find a 7A and wow, what a different sound. Tine Thing Helseth, the wonderful classical player, is said to play a very deep, small MP almost like a French horn MP and sounds wonderful on it.

I prefer the 8310Z because it captures the bright and happy Armstrong character, how it intonates, how it will stay under a singer without loss of clarity, and it sounds like it works for you rather than you are working for it. That is not to say the Taylor is bad: It is different. It’s quite possible the Taylor blends better and is more appropriate in larger and perhaps more formal ensembles. And that’s what’s in your ear.

You have a nice tone. I like the sound on the taylor myself when you played. You have a jazz type of tone warm and dark. My grandfather played on both a conn 22 and a Martin. On the Martin he sounded darker to me. My grandfather was bunny berigan. He played on three diffrent trumpets from what i read. I like a darker sound. You got that really nice. I use to play the trumpet 20 years ago for fun. I had a Mt Vernon bach trumpet that was on the dark side and my friend had a Taylor trumpet. I found his Taylor was even better when i played it then my Mt Vernon. I also had trouble playing above the staff when i played. I got a book called sail the seven seas i forget the persons name who wrote it. I pratice it everyday for two years along with other stuff like colins and arbans. I was able to play above high c and had good staying power. I found playing very softly in the upper staff help me a lot. Good job on the vidio.

Got the Custom Z B. Shew couple of years ago, love it. Use in my busy jazz combo, rich warm tone and best valves I have ever owned. Also using the Shew mouthpiece.

A very inspirational story, it’s great that you are playing trumpet again

Both great trumpets. Most important though is you. Great job!

Really enjoyed your demo and personal story. This is one of the best trumpet reviews I've seen on YouTube. The Taylor is obviously darker with more core as opposed to the Yamaha. I would keep the Yamaha you might find that it's better for certain kinds of music as opposed to the Taylor. Thanks for posting, really enjoyed this!

I like both a lot …thx ..I play a Carol Brass 5000 model I like the sound of very much…keep playing you sound excellent.

As a student at some point I struggled and even teacher was a bit frustrated. Then I got a trumpet on loan, not even expensive, and really made a leap! And good proceedings from there. Today I know that the old trumpet just wasn’t good, I still have it and don’t like playing it.

It's so nice you could afford your own trumpet! I've been playing more than ten yrs. but still I don't have my own trumpet!

Which ever one you express your heart with more.

Lovely warm tones/Enjoyed ...the one suited to you! "God Richly Bless you and the work you do"

This was so interesting. The Taylor sounds better by far. You have a nice sound. When I used to play years ago I had a mt Vernon Bach and also a LA benge. Both were great horns and I used a Bach 3 mouthpiece. My grandfather played a conn 22 and a Martin he played with Tommy Dorsey and Benny Goodman he was Bunny Berigan. I think a horn who pick his important but its everything like the shape of your mouth and your teeth too. But anyone can play good if the practice correctly. I tried a Taylor back in the 90s and I loved it. Thanks great video

The sound difference are like night n day. Its weerd but i play a taylor aswel and i find that you can almost hear that what you are playing is a taylor. A nice and warm sound :)

The Taylor sounds a bit darker to me, but that could just be the metals that it's made from. I think for your style of playing the Taylor is a better horn for you. The Yamaha is brighter and probably would shine more in the upper register if you are playing lead in a big band, but if you are playing more jazz licks/solo stuff, especially in a jazz combo the Taylor will have a much better sound.

Hi, thanks for the video, I was just looking at Piranha, sounds great. What did you customise in your order with Andy, anything you would have ordered differently now you have lived with the instrument for a few months?

I referred the piranha, thank you

I like the way you sound on the Taylor best. That said you sound good on the Yamaha as well but there is a clear difference in the bias of each design. I tend to like a darker sound myself. That said those too trumpets are so far apart from each other in terms of bell profile and leadpipe profile as to be completely different animals. I am sure had you tried other Yamaha's you could have found something liked just as much but that is not the point though.