Penn State Is Still Keeping Secrets On Frat Row (HBO)

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Published 2018-02-02
During Spring Rush in February, 2017 sophomore Tim Piazza died after an initiation ritual that forced him to drink 18 drinks in 82 minutes.

A year later, fraternities at Penn State say that can't happen again. But the culture of secrecy surrounding frats and rushing remains.

VICE News talks to would be frat boys about peer pressure at Penn State.

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All Comments (21)
  • @nicholas8476
    “Frats are outdated in the era of Snapchat and legal weed.” -Some GDI
  • @dak4702
    “Frats may seem outmoded” shows how out of touch vice is with the real world. I got to a mid-sized SEC school, 60% of students here are in Greek life. Frats may seem “outmoded” until you step on an actual college campus and really see their prevalence.
  • “There’s always gonna be parties, but I more want the connection” lol yeah ok buddy
  • @baileyayyy5085
    This is hilariously disconnected from the reality of the situation...
  • @davecheng4201
    I was in a frat in college. None of them were at my wedding. You don't need a frat to make friends and the relationships you build without frat culture is going to be more real than anything they find in or at a frat house. Am I still friendly with them? Yes. And I liked almost all of them, we just never got to the point of being life long friends.
  • I attempted to join a relatively mild and nerdy frat my junior year because I'd become friends with a lot of the members. After going through a bunch of stupid rituals and using all of my extra part time job money ($500) to pay my dues that first semester I was completely disillusioned and left. In many ways it is just paying to have friends who are joined together in a weird, secret cult atmosphere. Better to make real friends on your own.
  • @strafer8764
    They said one of the frat rituals was drinking out of a pot that contained semen. I would have walked out the door right then. Just trifling. No self respecting man, especially a straight one would even consider that.
  • walks up to pike house "who do you know here?" yeah dude they weren't gonna let you in
  • @BarnyWaterg8
    I think my biggest regret in my undergrad was believing in that frat “bros for life” bullshit. You can meet the best friends of your life in a more organic way
  • @tryhardpker
    They should become "bros" with the kids that are getting A's in their classes. Thats a friendship that will really pay off.
  • @Able_Hotel42
    How do they all look and sound alike? What is up with that?
  • @guymanissac
    screw all the hazing that actually gets people hurt or even worse killed, but some of the hazings stories are hysterical
  • @msherwood69
    imagine being forced to pay thousands of dollars and drink until you risk dying just so you can have friends... sad af
  • Living at a frat house just seems terrible. I couldn’t live with no privacy and random dudes I probably wouldn’t get along with
  • @Al-ht5pi
    Not buying it he’s keeping the secret too. They made you do more than a Zumba class bro
  • @Bourbon404
    Kudos to this video, it seems pretty fair, reporting as much info as possible (and talking to that president) without jumping to conclusions or making false claims. I was in a fraternity at a smaller school, my chapter was 50 guys, and had a great time. Made some of my lifelong best friends. What I say to people that are on the outside looking in is that every chapter is a fraternity unto itself. I've known chapters, including my own, that would never do any of the crap you hear about in the news and were standup guys. And I've known chapters that are exactly the Brads and Chads you despise, I don't like them either. The "hazing" I went through was mostly manual labor, cleaning the house, and what amounted to team building exercises. The brothers messed with us but it was in a good natured way, not vindictive or dangerous. I think it helped us grow together as a group. We threw great crazy parties, we could get drunk as hell if we wanted but no one forced us to. And we always took care of girls. All I can say is that these things need to be handled on a case by case basis and that they should be held to the same standards as anyone else.
  • @kylemutti2992
    the obvious reason for frat enrollment numbers going up from 2007-2017 is that the amount of students enrolled at the school also increased from 2007-2017 at a comparable rate. Frat numbers most likely increased cuz enrollment numbers went up therefore it is obviously more people but it is expected because the total amount of kids go up. the percentages stay the same.
  • UCI alumni here. As an international student, I joined Greek Life to have fun and get a unique perspective towards American culture. And I did have a lot of fun, but I am never going to join these kinds of “forced fun” cultish organizations again. We had to show how cool we are and put in a lot of unpaid labor (we were actually paying for it)— it was overwhelming. Also, a good friend of mine in the fraternity overdosed on Xanax and lost his life.