Lockheed Martin (Audio)

Gentlemen, I love the episode. One minor correction, the U2 is still in use. It has not been decommissioned as a program yet.

Man, this episode was awesome. Aircraft like the SR-71 and F-117 inspired me to pursue engineering and it still wows me today (and makes me feel like I'll never be a 'real engineer') that these aircraft were designed primarily on pen and paper. You guys struck a great balance of being wowed by the technology while still talking about the struggle of mentally processing both the importance and the far-reaching impacts of the military industrial complex. I worked in defense for ~2.5 years and felt first hand what it feels like to be part of the "engineering reserve corps" and being frustrated with the velocity of the industry. I've spent time working at Amazon, and it's interesting to see the parallels between the 14 Rules & 7 Tenets and Amazon's 16 Leadership principles. Knowing that Bezos' dad might have had exposure to those rules and tenets is an interesting connection that I never made before. Anyways - kudos on the awesome pod!

Came across this segment randomly when I wasn't paying attention to youtube, and became completely captivated. I can tell that you're both good writers and that you know a lot of cool stuff just by listening to this episode. Subscribed and can't wait to listen to more of your stuff.

Loved this episode. Thank you

Thank you for the episode!

I interviewed at Lockheed and big tech. My offer at big tech was 2-3x Lockheed, at a much better location, and with much better atmosphere. Based on my interviews of people there (including one at Skunkworks), it's 100% bureaucracy. Lockheed is a nationalized company by all measures.

Amazing episode! I was not expecting to like this as much as I did once I saw the theme but now I'm left with the feeling that 3:30h wasn't even enough! Would love to see a follow up episode with Palmer Luckey (Maybe for the 2nd channel?). Thanks, guys! Absolute prime content!

Feels kinda strange to hear the era I grew up in, told to me by young folks. I grew up in the 50’s about 15 minutes from Lockheed and the Skunk Works … most of the Aviation world was in So Cal and aerospace industry was ‘The Valley’.

I’m watching this while listening to the jets from Miramar fly overhead. I always cringe that they’ll crash into my house like in 2007 when a house in my neighborhood was obliterated by one.

I thought I knew something of aviation, then I thought I knew something about insulating houses, then I thought… you’re having a terrific good podcast about how to build a small idea into a worldwide accepted concept. What a revelation to hear you two speak about history of aviation since the development of the jet engine.

I think you should also point out in addition to their profits how highly paid many of their employees are. That’s where what would be profits actually go.

You guys missed the greatest story of all, Alfred Loomis!!!!

Great episode! A serious comment however. Spoiler Alert - this is about the Maverick movie which is awesome. If you haven't seen it yet, seriously don't read this now. The story starting with the project being shut down due to failing to meet the targets is exactly the opposite of reality. LM won the JSF competition with the F35 but then continuously failed to meet the needed speed, weight, payload targets. Instead of being shut down, as in the movie, they successfully got the targets reduced, repeatedly. This is a major part of the reason everyone from the Joint Chiefs to the leaders of other countries have have repeatedly talked about cancelling the whole thing. It's an example of really smart dishonest messaging designed to create a false but firm impression that things are being done the hard but fair way.

It was Nixon, not Johnson, I remember, for the S/R R/S gaff.

Can u fight bomber planes vs bomber planes

The U.S. space program was actually ahead of the Soviet Union’s space program, but was held back, so the legal issues of satellites passing over nations was addressed with the Soviet Union’s Sputnik. The U.S. didn’t object and the Soviets were not able to complain about the U.S. Explorer satellite, so the Corona and following satellites got a “free pass” in the legal issue of overflying nations in Space. Games inside games. I wonder what games are still classified? => Hubble only used by NASA? Not quite. Open budget item was the transfer of two Hubble bodies, no sensors, no control systems were declared surplus by CIA and transferred to NASA. This occurred the year after NASA had the design for the replacement for Hubble (in the visual spectrum). There must be some reason the U.S. wants its enemies to know certain things. Wonder what they can see now, from space? => There was a threat based need for the SR-71. What if the Soviet/US war went hot, when we needed fast planes? Same for the F-35 and Aurora today. Just because our prayers for not needing weapons were granted doesn’t mean they were not wise to obtain.

Brother worked for Lockheed Martin, then I got to work for them, and i love working for Lockheed Martin. The reason why is that I want to be that 1% responsible for every lethal machines we have created against our enemy. Im a programmer and got to go on a business trip to deal with classified information.

One guy is telling the story and the other guy keeps interrupting

Don’t forget to blame California…….🤔💕

Absolutely, no confusion or being conflicted. Having Overwhelming devastating on your side, is what keeps the world peaceful. At 18 in 1967, I didn’t understand but w/o a doubt, Peace through Strength is Real and it’s extremely effective. When does the world go to poop, when the US has a weak Democrat President… See Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden vs Eisenhower Reagan, Trump and even the Bush’s to some degree…