Hidden Secrets Of Famous Families (w/ Kurtis Conner) | Sad Boyz

yo just wanted to pop in and say i totally get why people are upset with me not condemning sssniperwolf more in this episode. at the time of recording things were really fresh and i certainly wasn't aware of sniperwolfs history of behavior on the platform. that dialogue has advanced a lot since this was recorded! i don't want to cut it out cause the discourse in the comments would be super confusing, but im gonna change the title / thumbnail so that people don't expect up to date coverage. also i think youtube's statements on this were bad and their temporary monetization action doesn't take things far enough at all. if people think that's what im doing, i completely understand the frustration

Obviously the Jacksflims situation is the main focus, but the fact Kurtis was inspired to grow a mullet by a drag queen? Best thing I've learned in days

Kurtis getting a mullet because of Crystal Methyd was not the lore I was expecting to learn today. Love that

I feel like if Jarvis knew anything about Ssniperwolf as a human being he would not be so charitable. She has consistently showed a complete lack of empathy/morality for years and years and years. I’ve never once seen/read/heard a good thing abt her from people whose opinions I respect. Like, I get how devoid of context it could maaaaaybe be seen as harassment, but it quite clearly is not that in context. I’m the last person you’ll find defending harassment of any kind. She’s a content farm of stolen content being promoted by YouTube — that’s absolutely a problem and deserving of parody/criticism.

Jack was always very intentional to keep his criticism to her content an the making of it and nothing personal about her life or anything like that. he kept making it because nothing was happening/she wasn't stopping, he explained how he kept doing it because it was reacting to the video of *that day*, not some random video from years ago, his point was that people's content kept being stolen and youtube kept defending and supporting it, nothing was changing, so he persistently called her out. not aggressively, not harassing, but persistent since the issue wasn't being resolved (and still isn't, but of course he's not making it now that his family's safety has to be accounted for)

Kurtis: can’t remember ever having internet drama Me: remembering how Russell Hartley created a whole-ass YouTube account to whine about the video Kurtis made about him.

The thing is Jack is 100% in the right in this situation. She wants to claim he's being sexist and everything when he's done this to other "reaction" channels, mainly jinx who was a man. This whole situation is stupid and she shouldn't be pulling up to people's houses and then getting all defensive when she gets called out for it.

The thing is Jack did give her credit when it was due and said multiple times that he believed she could be better. He had faith that she’d change for the better and she through the last bit of dignity or respect she could’ve happened when she not only doxxed him but STALKED him too and made light of it later. Her apology was bullshit. She didn’t even have the decency to get his channel name spelled right. YouTube’s response is bullshit and it’s horrible that they keep dragging their feet on this situation. She needs to be deplatformed and needs to be in jail. This sets a horrible precedent for creators and viewers alike that as long as you’re big enough you can get away with shit like this.

I’m gonna be honest, if you actually watch Jack’s videos on this and understand what their purpose and intention was, there is truly no reason to make all the caveats of “he’s harassing her” and such. He made very reasonable criticisms in a noticeably responsible way. I totally get the instinct to have doubts if you aren’t fully aware of the situation, women being harassed online is always a big issue, but that’s not what this is. There are already widespread criticisms of react content online in general, much of which is aimed at Twitch streamers. So I think Jack focusing on maybe the most prolific example on YouTube is completely reasonable.

I think Jack was pretty justified in what he did. He did praise her when she responded to the claims that she wasn’t watching the videos, she was just reading off a google doc (it was actually the reflection of her light on her glasses). His literal point was that she basically freebooted videos, sometimes even hiding creator names. His whole thing is “credit the creators” and “be transformative” (the bingo card was made up of things like “reading the caption”, talking over the video”, “stealing the original creators jokes”) He’s been pretty clear that it was never about gender and that literally the bare minimum he was asking was she credit the original creators and add some actual commentary but i understand how it could be perceived as an attack directly at her. regardless, doxing someone is not what “adults” do.

Everytime Kurtis laughs, he looks nervously at the camera. Can't wait to watch his comedy special

Jarvis, I totally understand where you’re coming from since you didn’t have the full context, but you were definitely being too kind to Sssniperwolf. Jack has always kept his criticism to how she steals content and the tropes within her videos and never got to a point of maliciousness, and the main point always was to give credit to content creators. He also has criticized other lazy react channels before. Obviously you and any normal person that has spoken about this acknowledged that the doxxing is very bad and wrong, but honestly even outside of that she’s been pretty much 0% right about everything

hearing Jordan quote “i’ve got that joy joy joy joy down in my heart “ brought back memories of being forced to go to Sunday school and church every Sunday as a kid 💔🤣

as someone who has been into the sssniperwolf and Jackfilms drama here an explanation of jack's content (from what I can tell). He made a parody channel, reacting to her reaction content. All the videos are streaming clips where they play a bingo (like Jarvis's Dhar Mann bingo) where they play cards that contain sssniperwolf tropes/repeated moments. From what I can tell, it's focused around calling our how she using content without crediting the creators. On his streams he tries to find the creators for all the tiktoks she reacts to and links them in the description. Plus he encourages people who watch the streamers to claim their content back (with growing success!). There is also other talk about sssniperwolf breaking community guidelines before with videos sexualizing/making fun of minors. I'm definitely missing stuff, but I thought I'd give some background from what I learned recently lol

Yeah it makes me a lil uncomfortable that you guys went into the jacksfilms doxxing thing without really knowing the situation. He was doxxed and threatened while he and his wife were inside their house, which is a very serious and scary thing. So the fact that so much of what was talked about was couched in "well I haven't seen the content", "I don't know the situation", etc feels kind of irresponsible. Especially since so much leeway was given to the person who stalked and doxxed someone else

Jack has also been reacting to things SSSniperWolf has been posting and adding credit that she’s refused to credit to small creators….he’s also had people in his community able to help people out in finding where their content is and getting it pulled from her videos by the OG creators putting CR claims on her stuff to get their content back from her making thousands of dollars off of them. He’s making a difference and calling her out on her bullshit and is pissed YouTube is letting her get away with it…and rightfully so, honestly.

Jacksfilms has a history of being against lazy reaction content. I think part of the whole Bingo thing, and making content out of it is because he found SSSniperwolf to be an incredibly egregious example. I also don't think that the Bingo was making fun of SSSniperwolf herself and moreso the themes and consistencies in her content that pointed to towards it being shamelessly pandered to kids while also being absolutely nothing. The worst it got was maybe her consistent use of the word "bro." He kept his criticisms strictly to her content.

Can I just say, Jordan is rocking the facial hair.

You know what, Jarvis, I want to give you a lot of credit for acknowledging that you haven’t seen any of Jack’s content about it and commenting about it with that in mind. Like, if you did, both in regards to what SSSniperwolf is going and the positive impact Jack is influencing in having creators reclaim content that got stolen from them, I’m pretty sure you would almost entirely be on his side. But you haven’t, which is fair, and, unlike a lot of people I’ve seen, gave your impression of the optics whilst fully acknowledging a potential lapse in judgement.

Sssniperwolf is a horrible person and a massive hypocrite and fraud and none of what Jack has done has been personally malicious towards Lia as a person. She is 100% in the wrong in this. I know you want to be diplomatic in a situation you don’t know much about and that’s commendable, but in this situation she is definitely a bad person