2227 Choosing Motors To Turn Into Generators

I converted a 110vac full size. Ceiling fan into an alternator. No cogging. 40 volts turning by hand. It has #36 wire and could be rewound with #26 for lower voltage, higher current.

Not long. Not wordy. Absolutely bang on ! = ) It helped, thank you Robert !

F&P as well as other washing machines with direct drive multipole BLDC motors are ideal to be rewired for a variety of delta and star configurations for power generation as water or wind turbines. Another great lecture Rob! TY

I've got spare alternators, and golf cart DC starter generators for various power generator options.❤👍 Keep em all and apply accordingly 👌

I B using dual hoverboard motors to make a vertical wind turbine/generator! They're fairly reasonable cost (especially if you can find one at a garage sale) or flea market as I did. I also bought one from Amazon and salvaged the motors for my current project. I do need a fair sized rotor to get results (I've got it mounted inside a H frame, BTW, thanks for the H frame idea Rob!)

Dude is THE MAN! This idea alone could revolt a lot of good, conscientious ppl who have little to do but chase Real Estate Hedge Fund Cyberbots all the Real Time Day!

I work in trades/construction and regularly see motors tossed in the bin that could be salvaged. Most common are fans (ceiling fans, bathroom vents, oven ranges). I'd love to see some 3D printed kits that could repurpose some of these motors. As much as I would like to take a few to tinker, I don't have the space nor the time for making my own kits. But if one was available I would at least build a few and give away some.

I need one of those big wheels for my brother's kids. 😂

Cedric Lynch's axial flux motors are the best i've ever found as both motors as well as generators. They are low rpm high torque motors that spin approximately 50rpm per volt with incredible torque. The AGNI motor I have can put out between .01hp-50hp (1watt-30kw) depending on input. More information: The Lynch motor is an unconventional design with a disc armature. It marries the advantages of a conventional, wound armature motor with the benefits of a flat (printed circuit) motor. It is similar to a pancake motor, but is more powerful than any of these technologies. The disc armature has magnets on both sides, doubling the available flux density and shortening the magnetic path. It therefore packs more power per pound and per cubic inch than any other motor technology. Of course such a revolutionary motor is not for every application - it is not as cheap as wound field motors, but for many applications it is a far superior motor. It has a previously unheard of power to weight ratio and also power to volume ratio. It is also highly efficient because of the double magnet design and associated short magnetic path. It also includes integral fan cooling. The Lynch motor is an important development which spurred other motor designers to improve their products to remain competitive, such as synchronus permanent magnet machines. As a result of the competition between manufacturers the cost of high performance motors and controllers has fallen dramatically. We hope the cost of solar cells also reduces to allow renewable transportation to develop as a viable alternative to carbon fuels. Cedric Lynch built his electric bike around a mid-drive configuration, also building one of the worlds most efficient light weight electric motors to power his rig reliably at 60-MPH for significant distances. He would later set several world records with his axial flux motor and bring it to market as the Lynch / Agni motor. Briggs and Stratton would eventually buy this technology which would lead to the Etek motor, which is now famous for making high speed efficient electric hot rods. Cedric uses to achieve high speeds is by following the rules of aerodynamics, and building a bike that is as aerodynamic and as efficient as possible. The other builders on this list bypassed this step, and Cedric uses this bicycle as daily transportation on real commutes. Although this high-efficiency motor uses “old school” brushes, this fact allows builders to use very affordable controllers. He has proven his design choices through thousands of miles of commuting, and the Lynch motor is highly respected. Cedric Lynch is known as the creator of the Agni Motor, a highly efficient electric motor that weighs around 25 pounds and can put out as much as 50hp. Cedric Lynch is a British 'mad scientist' type mechanical engineer obsessed with the idea of greener transportation. His interest has been in building a super efficient yet powerful vehicle that can serve as a car replacement. He started thinking of his own design for an electric motor in 1983 when he began entering competitions organized by the Battery Vehicle Society regarding building an efficient electric vehicle. At the time there was no reasonably priced DC motor with descent efficiency so Lynch decided to build his own utilizing modifying existing motors with old tin cans that he would spread out flat to use as cooling fins. Surprisingly using rudimentary materials and a garage work bench, Cedric was making better more efficient electric motors than any of the universities were able to manufacture in state of the art workshops. Cedric then came up with a motor design that could be cheaply manufactured and began manufacturing his own motor that he could sell to the public in 1988 and the Lynch Electric Motor Company was born, known as LEMCO. Cedric first used his motor to create a small boat called “The Spark” that would set an electric boat efficiency record. From there Cedric turned his attention to bicycles, an application generally considered too small for a lynch motor at that time. Cedric mounted his motor in recumbent bike, allowing him space to eventually use a set of thundersky lithium batteries. The resulting aerodynamic recumbent bike had a top speed of 60mph and still managed an incredible range of 150 miles. Cedric rode his recumbent creation everywhere as a daily commuter, putting an amazing 50,000 miles on the machine - technically a motorbike. Briggs and Stratton, the US firm famous for lawn mower engines, bought the technology and used it in their E-Tech Motor, and Cedric went on to manufacture his latest incarnation of his lynch design into the Agni motor, which is used in go karts, sailboats, motor boats, and even small airplanes. The Lynch designed motors all have the same traits. Brushed motors, around 25 pounds in weight and they are able to put out enormous power compared to their weight. Sometimes as high as 50 hp (depending on amperage ran through the motor) at an incredible 98% efficiency. Lynch Motors are also the most often used motors in electric motorcycle racing applications. Cedric's zero-emission motorcycle, which has a top speed of 120mph, was shown in action winning the world’s first zero carbon race – the TTxGP in the Isle of Mann. The idea for the electric motor has been snapped up by the 56-year-old’’s friend Arvind Rabadia, who together with his brother Hasmuk Rabadia had been thinking of starting a business in India. They have now set up Agni Motors to make further-improved versions of Cedric’s motors Despite Cedric’s breakthrough invention he has no formal engineering qualifications and taught himself the techniques needed to construct his engine. He first became interested in electrics when his parents bought him a book entitled How to build things from things found at home. The Etek motor is a brushed 25-pound pancake shaped motor that puts out enormous power for its weight. Depending on amperage and voltage the Etek can easily provide between 15-horsepower and 30-horsepower reliably and consistently (11-kW / 22-kW). A perfect platform for a powerful electric bike if you do not mind the weight. Although brushless motors are considered more modern, a brushed motor like the Etek allows the builder to use very affordable controllers. Cedric-Lynch invented the motor and sold it to Briggs and Stratton which US company produced the Etek at a lower price (around $600). In the late 90’s early 2000’s it was the way to go for a high-power / light-weight electric vehicle. Many small E-vehicle records were set using the Etek motor. Finally, the market had a relatively lightweight and powerful electric motor available to the masses. In essence, the Etek allowed hot rodders to build electric bikes. Before the Etek very few people had ever achieved 50mph on an electric bike. Even today, Etek motors (and newer incarnations of the Etek motor) are used to make some super fast electric bikes. In the case of Liveforphysics, the fastest E-bikes ever. Liveforphysics used a newer version of the Etek (the Agni motor), to achieve speeds of over 70mph, and dominate a recent hill-climb event. Every Etek I have ever ridden has been characterized by brutal off-the-line acceleration, usually to a point where you have to apply the throttle very carefully or get thrown off. However, it is possible to run an Etek at a lower voltage or lower amperage and have a very manageable, safe, and sane electric bike that will not burn out on you, no matter high steep the incline.

This is crazy... My brother-in-law was a production line engineer for a company making plastic panels, for greenhouses and that sort of thing. I explained to him how electric motors could generate, he didn't believe me. He was a stubborn cus. The next day he called me and said he bench tested motors at work and what I said was true. There are lots of sources of motors but one I like are treadmills because they are dc and get thrown out so often, and the motors are fairly high quality. Another commenter mentioned newer washing machine motors. They are great for turbines as far as I can tell. I have links to how to rewire them but I have never tried it.

Excellent explanation, I learned so much in your unpacking details, thank you, very educational.

You can mention about CZinger 21C car. It has a generator attached to the rear-mounted internal combustion engine, and 2 electric motors in the front powered directly from this generator (it has 2 super-capacitors as a buffer). So effectively it has copper shaft that does not even spin.

Very helpful and insightful. Thanks

Tell them the genie out of the bottle now and we should all be Happy, energy prices will go down Now.

awesome thumbnail pic!! lol. I enjoy the channel! thx for showin/tellin/teaching!

Old Fisher & Paykel ecodrive washing machines are amongst the best. Company in new Zealand makes wind turbines using those exact motors. I got one in parts in my shed, AMAZING amount of magnets and coils. Generally the electronics fail in them and the motor is fine. I got mine off the roadside.

Treadmill motors put out 130 volt DC.

great and concise

Very helpful!!!!

This is great information Rob. Thanks for the breakdown making it simple enough for us common folks. I try not to read too many of the comments because people are always trying to sharpshoot you on trivial matters. Regardless of them, spot on Rob keep up the great vids. Subcriber for life. Cheers