The Congress of Vienna: Decided by YOU

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Published 2024-03-01

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  • @JoCE2305
    You really should do ranked-choice voting. With so many similar options, many winners were dissimilar from the rest of the options, had a small plurality, but won the vote over the large groupings of more similar options that people actually preferred.
  • "is the world ready for Tropical Swedes in the Caribbean" it already was! Sweden took control of St. Barthelemy island in 1784 in exchange for the French getting some trading rights in Goteborg eventually they'd sell it back to France in 1878, after failed negotiations to sell it to the US or Italy (now imagine Italians in the Caribbean)
  • Roussillon was Spanish for quite a while until the French conquered it. It would make sense for Spain to get that back as repayment for the Napoleonic Wars, as IRL they suffered a lot trough the war (and lost their entire empire) while gaining nothing in return.
  • @caiusoof
    Let’s go! Hope you do this with the Seven Years War
  • Regarding Guadalupe and Swedes in the Caribbean, there was almost Latin American Swedes! Carl XIV Johan (aka former Marshal Bernadotte) dearly wanted a colony on the South American mainland to develop. He tried for 20 years by hook and by crook to obtain territory but it never worked out. He personally always had a dream of developing a territory out of the wilderness dating back to the time Napoleon offered him the governorship of Louisiana in 1803. During the 1820s and 1830s Sweden was curiously quite involved in the affairs of Latin America and the Caribbean as Carl Johan angled to carve out a Swedish niche. It is a little known period of Swedish history.
  • I remember voting like I was paid by Napoleon. I literally voted every time to make France great again and Napoleon get power
  • @JohnnyElRed
    As a Spaniard voting on the Andorra thing, I must say: at least this way we prevent it from transforming into a tax haven. And also having Roussillon incorporated would at least make it so all Catalonian speaking regions got under one authority instead of divided. And protect them from the heavy hand France has had with this kind of regional languages and identities.
  • @theChaosKe
    Here is a wild one, how about reestablishing saxony-poland and connecting them via silesia as a true buffer state between austria and prussia.
  • @MrCalls1
    6:43 ‘kaiser-boos’ for enlarging the German states. Ok, I had the exact opposite reason to what you supposed, I wanted larger stronger German states so that they could more robustly oppose Prussian domination. Edit: and not just to fight Prussia, Germany was always going to unify under Prussia, austria, or unified little states solution. But whatever it is, hopefully there might be a counter-balance to Prussian cultural/militarism dominance
  • @Ghiaman1334
    On voting for this treaty, I was looking first for independence where possible, then secondly to avoid exclaves without making people too large. Seeing these results, I think I would stay away from a WW2 scenario, I'm worried about those Kaiserboos becoming Wehraboos...
  • People need to be more responsible. If you give Heligoland to Denmark, de British cannot use it to acquire Zanzibar, so the Germans keep it which means: Freddy Mercury will be German! Friedrich Quecksilber, probably singing German Schlagers. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT?!
  • What about Olivenza? The Congress of Vienna promised to give it back to Portugal, but they didn’t do it, and Spain kept it. There perhaps should’ve been a vote to give it back to Portugal
  • Can you make a poll and video about how we would structure a constitution? Like Question 1: Are the Head of State and Head of Government the same person? Question 2: Is the Head of Government elected by the Legislature, the People, appointed… Question 3: Is it a federation, confederation or centralised state etc? Etc. You could choose a real country at a specific moment in time and make it specific to that. Such as USA 1776, France 1793, West Germany 1949, France 1958, Afghanistan 2001 etc.
  • The Swedish-Guadalupe connection lasted into the 1980s. Long-story short: When Marshal Bernadotte was elected Crown Prince of Sweden in 1810 and became Carl Johan, he paid off much of the Swedish national debt with his own money and from the handsome proceeds of the sale of his estates in France, Germany and Poland, and the Principality of Ponte Corvo. In 1812-1813 when Carl Johan was assembling the 6th Coalition with Britain and Russia against Napoleon, he had two territorial requests as the price of Sweden's participation in a campaign against Napoleon in Germany: 1) The cession of Norway from Denmark and 2) The cession of Guadalupe from France to the person of the Swedish King, and thence to Carl Johan (via Britain who occupied it) in partial personal compensation for having paid down the Swedish national debt, as well as having paid many Swedish nationals compensation, out of his own pocket to the tune of millions, for property lost to France after the French Invasion of Swedish Pomerania. During the War of the Sixth Coalition, and after a very brief campaign in December 1813 that saw Bernadotte overrun most of Denmark, the Treaty of Kiel was signed on 14 Jan 1814 that ceded the Kingdom of Norway to the Swedish Crown in exchange for Swedish Pomerania and £1Million. Carl Johan paid this sum out of his own pocket, again. However, at the Congress of Vienna in 1814, it was decided for various political reasons to return Guadalupe to France. In exchange, the British paid Carl Johan, directly, 24 Million Francs as a settlement. Carl Johan used 12 Million Francs to pay off the remaining Swedish national debt, and used the other 12 Million Francs to pay for various public works. To compensate Carl Johan for his extreme generosity for using so much of his own money for the national interest, the Swedish parliament, the Riksdag, voted Bernadotte an annuity of 300,000 Riksdalers per annum. After his death the annuity would transfer to his son and then to his heir (only those inheriting the crown) and so on. This annuity remained in place, still at 300,000 Kroner, until 1983 when the Riksdag voted to end it as the House of Bernadotte had by then been amply compensated.
  • @shinyagumon7015
    No, I missed it :( It would be cool if you announced the next contest in a separate video. I think, as a general rule of thumb, if you give people the ability to vote for a minor power gaining colonies or independence, most people will vote for that just to see how it shifts the border and also because It's fascinating to think about the implications of a more culturally diverse New World or Middle East. Also, what if, after Napoleon's second exile in Elba, he uses his influence to turn it into a respectable minor power in the Mediterranean like Monaco? So when he dies, the Elbians decide they would rather keep being ruled by his kin, so Napoleon III leaves France and becomes Monarch of Elba.
  • Could be interesting to make an alternate history out of this. You could even toss in more votes down the road for other major decisions.
  • @Charlotte-nt1uj
    In our history curriculum (at a school somewhere in the Netherlands) we play out the congress of Vienna in year four of what we call middle school (around age 15). Everyone plays as a certain country. Some are big powers like France, Russia or Prussia, and others all small countries like Naples, Saxony or the Netherlands. I played as Saxony. For some reason my class thought they’d be funny and did some ridiculous stuff. They decided that everything would be a part of Russia (screw historical accuracy i guess) and because my class was made up of fools they had a 5/9 majority. At some point, we, as the tiny nation of Saxony, were the only ones resisting the force of the mighty combined empires of Russia, Prussia, the UK, France and Austria. It was very ridiculous, but still a fun project.
  • @Mr.ByxisCOMPASS
    Without Lombardy Venetia Austrai would certainly be weaker but they might get less attracted to italian affair. Keep in mind that Prussia's victory in 1866 was partially thanks to Austria sending troups to Venetia to defend it from Italy (even though they previously agreed to give them the province).