Honda's CRAZY Oval Piston Engine

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Published 2022-05-20
This is a normal piston and THIS is an oval piston. Yes, it’s real and yes, it’s absolutely amazing.

Honda took a question that absolutely no one asked and answered it with one of the maddest engines you’ve ever seen. And by the way this isn’t some fancy prototype, they took it racing and even somehow sold a road-legal version.

Right, so how do you even get to the point where you need to build an oval engine?

It’s the late ‘70s and Honda have been out of the motorbike racing game for some time.
Motorcycle Grand Prix rules at the time stated that all engines had to have a maximum of four cylinders with a capacity of 500cc.

Honda had no problem sticking to those rules, but its young team of engineers decided to do things a little differently to their competitors.

The grid was dominated by 2-stroke engines. Honda were too edgy to follow the crowd and refused go down the same path as everyone else. Also, Soichiro Honda himself famously hated two stroke engines, describing them as ‘bamboo tubes with holes drilled’.

Because of that deep burning hatred, Honda became quite well known for making excellent four stroke engines.

Honda’s engineers realised that a four-stroke engine would need to rev to DOUBLE that of a two stroke just to make the same 120hp its competitors were getting.

They needed to find a way to make that possible and what they came up with is just mad.

They couldn’t increase the capacity beyond 500cc and the restrictions limited them to four cylinders, so they started by looking at the valve and intake system.


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All Comments (21)
  • @benyahun
    MotoGP: V8 is banned. Honda: let me just.... Merge these cylinders into four big ovals ... Its a V4 i swear
  • @JLneonhug
    When engineering goes so far down a rabbit hole it becomes art.
  • @Indarow
    Such a classic Honda move. “I wonder if this will work?” “Oh look at that! It worked!!… well, we’ll never do that again.”
  • @hardencryption
    Thinking outside of the box is the reason for Honda's success
  • @monteiro5306
    Thank you Scott. I'm 59 and I remember all the development of the project. Fantastic technology. I wonder if development had continued, as for example in F1, what would have happened, especially considering how the regulations allowed greater creative freedom in the 1980s. Would it have worked? I am passionate about motorcycles, and until today, I use the NR 750 as an image for my channel. Greetings from a Brazilian subscriber.
  • @neilberry7345
    I have ridden the NR750. It is incredible. The bike was heavy, partly because it had an insanely heavy exhaust. The bodywork was carbon fibre that would chip so easily and the paint alone cost $7,500 per bike. The engine was extraordinary. It just revved and the torque was so flat you hit the rev limiter all the time. Not very powerful by fireblade standards of the time I think about 100HP. The designer was very unhappy that it got strangled because of the push for power limits in EU. To make it up to him Honda took one, changed the exhaust and ECU and used it to set some world records. Very cool turning up at my mate's work on it but was only allowed to borrow it for an afternoon.
  • @nvwlsnvwls2785
    Hi, in 2008 I noticed one in a parking lot in Ajax, Ontario and had to say hello and ask the rider about the bike. It had just over 100,000 klms on the odometer and was burning a touch of oil. He just topped it up a bit as needed. No major failures or rebuilds and he had enjoyed the bike, he had bought it used in good condition. I suggested he contact Honda, they might like to see an example of a long term survivor. I remember when it launched and could not afford one at the time. I was very happy to see a running bike so many years later. She still looked like sweet ride.
  • I was 13 years old when i saw that machine at the practice sessions of the 1981 British motorcycle Grand Prix at Silverstone. Freddie Spencer was riding the Honda NR 500 GP at that race. You have to remember you had push starts at the time, not standing starts like you have today in MotoGP. Now this oval piston machine was very difficult to start with a push start, and Freddie Spencer was practicing this over and over again in the pits strait because of this. It had an amazing sound though compared to the twins. It's an anecdote my dad always comes up with and now i saw this video popping up, so funny.
  • Don't forget that Honda also made the RC211V which is a V5 configuration for MotoGP.
  • @roflchopter11
    These days, it'd be banned because the regs say 4 "cylinders"
  • I drove a CB400 four as a teenager and had all the fun in the world. Many times regretted selling it. My dreams were so real that I woke up to look for it in the garage when cruel reality kicks in. Awesome engine. Then older brother bought the CB 750
  • @g.4279
    You should do a video on Honda's V5! That was an experimental motorcycle engine that actually performed incredibly well.
  • @Aramis444
    “And in 1983, they had a virgin that achieved 130HP.” Great video! Very interesting stuff, and very well explained! Honda has always been one of my favourite brands.
  • @johndoe528
    It looks more like the double rods were to balance / control torque from twisting the piston within the cylinder ( elipse-inder?). With a single rod supporting it in the middle, it could seize very easily
  • @OzarksWildman
    Honda also made legendary two stroke engines. They have twice as many power strokes per revolution. Closer to running off pure explosions, like a jet engine.
  • @chrisblood7395
    Why? Well, aside from Mr. Honda's dislike of 2 strokes, by the time Honda started work on this engine, the other Japanese manufacturer's had managed to... "persuade" (by means that nobody will discuss to this day) the FIM to; - increase the 2-stroke displacement limit from 350cc's (which had made them competitive with a 500cc 4-stroke) to 500cc; - ban any type of "forced induction" - like a supercharger, while at the same time allowing the use of expansion pipes. Which, on a 2-stroke, accomplishes the same thing - just pulling the intake charge in, instead of pushing it (and which doesn't work on a 4-stroke engine); and finally - limiting the engines to 4 cylinders. All of which made sure that no 500cc, 4 stroke, 4 cylinder engine stood a snowball's chance in Hell against a Kawasaki, Yamaha, or Suzuki 500cc race bike. Until this engineering tour-de-force Honda reared it's sadly almost-but-not-quite head...
  • @TonyRule
    2:53 I suspect it's more to do with the preventing the piston racking in the bore given the width.
  • @owenward2924
    Remember having a poster of this on my wall in my teen years, one of the best looking bikes to come out of Japan.... Ever. This was like the Bugatti Veyron of motorcycle technology, they even tinted the windshield with a thin layer of titanium rather than using plastic film
  • @hcwaffles8912
    Its honestly so impressive that they managed to get a 500cc 4 stroke to have the same power output as a 500cc 2 stroke, even with the extra 20kg thats just insane to me
  • @Mr.Robert1
    The oval piston engine (0X engine, developed in 1979) was a product of Honda's drive to conquer technical challenges.