Missing 411: Mt. Shasta Disappearances

I lived in Mount Shasta for 24 years, and worked for the local park service for 5 years. It’s a beautiful area but please don’t go off alone I’ve had months of my life dedicated to looking for young hikers and campers.

For Carl Landers' story- As part of my wilderness first aid certification, I learned about HACE (High Altitude Cerebral Edema). Essentially, when at high altitudes (there's no specific altitude this happens at, it depends on the person and the circumstance), people can get this edema that seriously effects their ability to think clearly and generally know what's going on. This can be accompanied by hallucinations and is also usually preceded by altitude sickness symptoms, which he had. I think it's really possible that he could've developed HACE, gotten completely disoriented, possibly hallucinated something horrible behind him, and gone either way farther up the mountain than he meant to or off to the side in hopes of getting his bearings. It's a nasty thing that's killed a good number of experienced mountaineers and I feel like its the most logical explanation here.

As a Native American I must say,, Miigwetch (Thank you) for doing good research on Native Americans, most of the times we are misrepresented or misinterpreted.

man how is the robot grandma story not an X Files episode, it sounds perfect lol

What that kid described sounds exactly like a dream. Distorted and out of place versions of things he has actually experienced, like his grandmother, spiders, bizarre goals that make no sense like defecating onto a paper, etc. Note that the kid was at the age where he would have recently been potty trained. It sounds like a dream/nightmare version of his experiences with that learning process, where an adult authoritative figure wanted him to poop a certain way, and got upset if he didn't "do it right." My guess is he just had a dream and then associated it with another source of trauma - the time he was lost.

I heard the "robot granny" story before and someone pointed out that on his story, the kid mentions spider webs on robots that look like people but aren't moving, and that sounds like corpses covered by a white sheet

I actually have an experience with Mt. Shasta. When I was 17-18, my step father got permission from his boss to use one of his properties to stay at for a small vacation. We don't live that far away; we live in Redding. When we got there, the mountain was lit up while the town was in the dark. It was beautiful. When I went to sleep that night, I was thinking about the mountain. I had one of the most vivid and lucid dreams I have ever had and can't remember most of it. I remember how I felt. How overwhelmed I was by the whole experience. I remember that there was some... people there. I knew they weren't human, but there were a few. What I can remember seeing is the same, soft, orange-pink light that the mountain was lit up in when I saw it heading back to the property.

Dude was really brainstorming what spiders in a cave could mean lol

I think what is more creepy and unnerving than someone going missing without knowing what happened is when we DO know what happened but there is no explanation for it. Case in point: the Joshua kid who vanished while on a walk near his home who was found many years later in the chimney of a cabin not far from his house. It appeared as if the boy had taken off some of his clothes, climbed face first down the chimney, and then got stuck and died. Looking at it dispassionately, that is what happened. However, that makes absolutely NO sense. The kid wasn't drunk or under the influence. He was for all we know in his right mind. To this day it's classified as "death by misadventure" but no one believes that's the full story. It still bothers me.

Sorry but calling any part of California the good part of California is completely factually inaccurate

I lived near Mt Shasta and hiked, snowshoed, and skied all sides of the mountain in all seasons. I did have one strange experience on the mountain. It was early summer and I was off trail, hiking toward a ridge line on the southwest side of the mountain. I was above tree line and decided to stop for lunch. I found a clump of rocks, out of the wind, and settled in for lunch. About halfway through lunch I heard rocks above me trickling down and looked up to see the most impressive buck I'd ever seen coming down towards my position.The thought I had was this is the Arnold Schwarzenegger of deer, as its muscles were impressive. I turned to get my camera, out of my backpack, and when I looked back up the deer was gone, totally disappeared. There was nowhere it could have gone as it was all open rock and scree in every direction. later I heard a couple of stories about hunter's that thought they were about to shoot the most impressive buck they ever saw and it disappeared the moment they fired at it - it's known as the mythical buck of Mt.Shasta.

There's robot grandma's, there's underground civilizations, aliens, and then there's just Carl.

The "grandma Kappy" story always intrigued me the most out of ALL the many reports of missing 411 found & returned cases...

My parents got married on the side of Mt. Shasta. My mom has always told me about how difficult it was to get their friends to hike up there for their wedding so barely anyone showed up

Love your videos. One thing, I'm part of the Klamath tribe. I realize we're small and most people haven't heard of us, and you did a baller job on research. Our name is pronounced CLAM-ATH. Coincidentally, I also used to live in the Shasta Lake/Redding area too and have heard about weird shit going on in Shasta, for years. Totally believe there's some crazy shit/beings up there.

When Grandma got run over by a reindeer Santa replaced her with a robot... This is the story of that malfunctioning robot

The tale of the Old Man of the Sky being scared of the grizzly bears he made is just the OG version of 'do you think god stays in heaven because he's scared of what he made'

The best theory I can think of on Carl is that perhaps he drowned in the lake? If they combed the rest of the area, that's probably the only place a body could be truly hidden

Carl played a game. His goal was to climb all 58 mountains in California. When he got near to Helen Lake it must’ve been close enough to the peak to count as having climbed it. Carl won the game and got to leave. The world stopped for him and he got off. Well done Carl.

I was on a Department of Forestry and Fire Protection wild land fire fighting crew in the late 90s and early 2000s and we did a lot of hiking and training on and around Mt.Shasta and let me tell you, some of those areas gave us the willys and made the hair on the neck stand up!! Why? No idea! Nothing we could see with our eyes. It felt like we were always being watched!! Creepy...