Britain's Plans for the Northern Irish Border (and why Europe hates them) - TLDR News

Anyone else remember when Brexit was supposed to be “really easy” to implement and that it wouldn’t cause any issues whatsoever?

I didn't realize you could sign an agreement, but then just make a new agreement yourself, and the other party had to abide by the new agreement you made up. That will be really useful.

The current situation where NI has access to the UK and EU markets has resulted in Northern Ireland's economy performing better than expected and better than most other regions of the UK bar London. Which obviously can't be allowed as it would highlight just how much of a monumentally stupid idea it was to willingly cut your country off from the biggest trading bloc on the planet.

Why would anyone hate the Czechs on the Irish border? I know a few Czechs and they're great lads i say leave them alone

I can tell ye that here in Ireland any trust in the British government and specifically the Tories has completely been lost.

I actually rather feel that Britain is fighting itself on this

Britain waives the rules!

As an EU citizen I would support pulling out of the “oven ready deal” altogether, and let the UK sort out its own mess.

It's worth noting the DUP were also the only party to reject the Good Friday Agreement and refused to sign it.

And who checks that the trucks in the green lane are not just skipping the queue in the red lane? 🙄 Or indeed using the green lane to smuggle into the EU?

“This agreement that we signed to protect the Good Friday agreement must be changed immediately… to protect the Good Friday agreement!”

"This marks a return to the Brexit days of old" Does it though? My outsider's impression is that this has been happening continuously. The UK government makes demands, the EU says no, the UK government keeps making them, the EU keeps saying no, the UK government backs down. The UK government makes new demands, and so on.

From an EU perspective this is beyond silly. The EU's requirement is this: * Since the UK is now outside the union, free market, and Schengen zone (by their own choice), we will have to have a border. There will have to be checks on goods, since you now want to deviate from the regulation of said goods. We don't want you to smuggle chlorinated chicken into our common market. The UK is free to decide where that border will be. On land (violating the GF agreement), or in the sea (upsetting unionists). Frankly, it's not our problem. You put yourself in this mess. You fix it. I don't give a shit whether this is bad for your party politics. Throughout this whole brexit ordeal the UK has been real cheeky. Everyone with a brain can see that they want to have the cake and eat it too. And when it comes to red and green boxes: you still have to have customs to ensure the green boxes end up in NI and the red in the EU, otherwise it's just a coat of paint. You are right back where it started. If nobody checks, then there is no customs, and if someone checks, there is customs. Now it's just customs with paint.

Make Ireland whole again and ship the DUP to Rwanda.

Imagine you, as a person, would negotiate something, agree on it by putting your signature under it and then act like it's unfair. The Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving edit: oh and claiming how good the deal is right after signing it, just to say it isn't as soon as it doesn't suit you anymore ofc

Such a mess. I'll die on the hill that it's undemocratic to implement Brexit policies without a referendum asking "You wanted Brexit. Here's how it will look. Do you still want it?"

Honestly Britain should just go no deal at this point… I’m sick and tired of the British government blaming everything on the EU…

Let's be honest here, the only way this can end is with NI rejoining Ireland. As long as it stays part of the UK there won't ever be a solution.

Get Brexit done, eh? Boris wants a distraction from his problems, mainly, and apart from that he wants 'trusted business' status as another potential gift to their wealthy donors. They want to be able to drop regulations for the sake of their donors' profits, too, but they have a problem that if they do that they need somewhere to sell their products, since the lower classes of the UK won't be able to afford them any more after a couple years of that. Sell to the EU, then! But they won't accept stuff made with low regulations! No problem: flog them through Northern Ireland, where if this passes, the EU can't stop them. It's all to serve the sleaze.

The report did not say that 20% of all EU checks take place in the Irish Sea. It says that, based on a calculation, 20% of documentary SPS checks take place in NI – i.e. that one fifth of a certain subcategory of a certain type of check take place 🙄 And even that isn't proven as the UK doesn't have access to the total checks on all EU borders. In other words, it's a baseless assertion made up by NI unionists 🙄 The EU import 3.4 trillion Euro worth of goods every year, to say there are 20% of those checks between GB and NI is actually laughable 😂😂😂