Want Denuvo in Your Game Mods? - WAN Show September 8, 2023

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Timestamps (Courtesy of NoKi1119):
0:00 Chapters
1:00 Intro
1:29 Topic #1 - Mod replaces Starfield's FSR2 with DLSS & XeSS
3:10 Login authentication, mod's revenue
5:18 Free mod alternative, backlash, debate over "paid mods"
8:32 Luke on Skyblivion, Linus on net benefits & source of income
15:22 FP Poll: How many mods do you use in a game?
20:44 Work required for projects ft. MM Dashboard, Floatplane
24:52 Starfield's sales & potential mods revenue
28:04 Mod camps, NVIDIA's Morrowind demo & Denuvo
33:02 Discussing possible approaches, "slider system"
36:32 Minecraft Marketplace, recalling horse armor
38:50 Mod revenue, microtransactions
40:38 Topic #2 - Nintendo's private demo of Switch 2
41:15 Luke realizes paid graphical mod is "microtransaction"
42:54 FPS & resolution demo, Linus called this, "current-gen HD"
45:24 "Nintendo-exclusives," RTX 40XX, Linus on Xbox
48:58 What would your dream console be?
54:52 Linus on how Steam Deck impacted Nintendo's decisions
56:56 Luke Nukem LTTStore T-Shirt ft. Dan throws a box
59:17 Series 2 Pins ft. What is Luke Nukem?
1:03:22 Interesting line on Starfield's EULA
1:06:13 FP's comment on complaints at the start of a trend
1:07:02 Merch Messages #1
1:07:34 Traditional forums comeback?
1:09:37 Smaller LTTStore backpack update
1:10:53 EULA of creation kit for Skyrim
1:12:40 You say not to pre-order. Do I pre-order the Luke Nukem shirt or not?
1:13:51 Stupidest tech you bought that you found you had a use for?
1:18:22 Topic #3 - Google's privacy sandbox for cookies & ads
1:19:23 Google's pop-up, YouTube limits ad controls
1:23:42 MrBeast's smiles in thumbnails, new trend?
1:26:04 Possible reflective rain cover graphic
1:28:38 Sponsor - The Ridge x Hennessy
1:29:56 Sponsor - Secretlab
1:30:48 Sponsor - Redmagic
1:32:02 Merch Messages #2
1:32:07 Biggest change to our lives with unlimited power?
1:37:15 Would you live without tech if drivers became a subscription? ft. "Year of the Linux"
1:40:16 How do you decide what tier of cars to review?
1:47:48 What part of the YouTube algorithm surprises you?
1:49:51 Topic #4 - Rockstar selling cracked games on Steam
1:50:22 Rockstar's patch, Manhunt's anti-crack measures
1:54:26 Linus needs help with a passive 3D projector
2:00:25 LTTStore's newsletter
2:02:44 Topic #5 - Mozilla's report on car's privacy nightmare
2:03:22 Excessive data collected
2:04:08 Tesla failed the test, Luke's car
2:04:47 Less security information provided, petition
2:05:26 What to do when you cannot opt out? ft. Luke's car in LMG videos
2:10:13 Topic #6 - SAG-AFTRA might lead game VAs to strike
2:22:35 Topic #7 - Gizmodo replaces a Spanish writer with a machine
2:25:45 Topic #8 - Frameworks sells "old" mainboards at a discount
2:28:12 Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark, pizza
2:29:18 Linus puts bread on Dan's chair, gym time, pizza sauces, fruits
2:36:25 Any advice for working with work paralysis? Biggest "A HA!" moment?
2:39:38 The Backloggery for game collections
2:40:21 Do you like it when people discuss tech with you in the wild?
2:46:30 How many goats are you worth, and why?
2:49:12 Process of designing LTTStore pins?
2:50:12 Noctua screwdriver update? Bundling the Stubby & OG?
2:53:10 How have the first few weeks of the slower video outputs been?
2:56:50 Linus's socks preference
2:57:22 What happened to the stray cats in Linus's yards?
2:59:02 What would take any of you to shave your beards?
3:01:07 When did you guys realize you had PC building expertise? ft. Train
3:03:01 What LTTStore products are upcoming?
3:06:00 Most frustrating example of losing work due to lack of backwards compatibility?
3:09:07 Dropped the screwdriver from 130ft - any crazy tests on your products?
3:12:08 Unscripted videos, how long until scripted? ft. "Chess problems," glasses
3:25:51 If LMG became a mid-sized corporation, should the WAN Show continue?
3:27:46 Floatplane merch update?
3:29:54 Where to go to look for a badminton racket? ft. Linus's FB market history
3:33:33 Would the boom in handheld devices cause AR to become popular?
3:34:20 Linus's challenges with ADHD
3:35:04 Have the staff upgraded a product with third party item?
3:36:22 Suggestions if I don't want to man a million plus projects?
3:38:01 What videos do you wish to have a do-over?
3:40:52 Advice to give someone who starts with no experience? Pitfalls to avoid?
3:41:32 Is there a future where Nintendo bows out of the gaming space?
3:44:12 Outro

All Comments (21)
  • @NoKi1119
    Maybe I have been in the wrong profession this whole time - brb becoming a modder. Timestamps [0:00] Chapters. [1:00] *Intro. [1:29] Topic #1: Mod replaces Starfield's FSR2 with DLSS & XeSS. > 2:15 Early build included DLSS 3 via Patreon. > 3:10 Login authentication, mod's revenue. > 5:18 Free mod alternative, backlash, debate over "paid mods." > 8:32 Luke on Skyblivion, Linus on net benefits & source of income. > 11:34 Luke on mod projects, who should be paying who? > 15:22 FP Poll: How many mods do you use in a game? > 20:44 Work required for projects ft. MM Dashboard, Floatplane. > 24:52 Starfield's sales & potential mods revenue. > 28:04 Mod camps, NVIDIA's Morrowind demo & Denuvo. > 33:02 Discussing possible approaches, "slider system." > 36:32 Minecraft Marketplace, recalling horse armor. > 38:50 Mod revenue, microtransactions. [40:38] Topic #2: Nintendo's private demo of Switch 2. [Cont.] Topic #1: Starfield's mods. > 41:15 Luke realizes paid graphical mod is "microtransaction." [Cont.] Topic #2: Nintendo's private demo of Switch 2. > 42:54 FPS & resolution demo, Linus called this, "current-gen HD." > 44:04 Dev kits, possible launch date. > 45:24 "Nintendo-exclusives," RTX 40XX, Linus on Xbox. > 48:58 What would your dream console be? > 54:52 Linus on how Steam Deck impacted Nintendo's decisions. [56:56] Luke Nukem LTTStore T-Shirt. > 57:10 Dan throws a box at Luke. > 59:17 Series 2 Pins ft. What is Luke Nukem? > 1:02:06 "There is something else coming" - Linus. [Cont.] Topic #1: Starfield's mods. > 1:03:22 Interesting line on Starfield's EULA. > 1:06:13 FP's comment on complaints at the start of a trend. [1:07:02] Merch Messages #1. > 1:07:34 Traditional forums comeback? > 1:09:37 Smaller LTTStore backpack update. [Cont.] Topic #1: Starfield's mods. > 1:10:53 EULA of creation kit for Skyrim. [Cont.] Merch Messages #1. > 1:12:40 You say not to pre-order. Do I pre-order the Luke Nukem shirt or not? > 1:13:51 Stupidest tech you bought that you found you had a use for? [1:18:22] Topic #3: Google's privacy sandbox for cookies & ads. > 1:19:23 Google's pop-up, YouTube limits ad controls. > 1:22:05 YouTube decides when midrolls & ads should be. > 1:23:42 MrBeast's smiles in thumbnails, new trend? > 1:26:04 Possible reflective rain cover graphic. [1:28:38] Sponsors. > 1:28:43 The Ridge x Hennessy. > 1:29:56 Secretlab chairs. > 1:30:48 Redmagic 8S Pro. [1:32:02] Merch Messages #2. > 1:32:07 Biggest change to our lives with unlimited power? > 1:37:15 Would you live without tech if drivers became a subscription? ft. "Year of the Linux." > 1:40:16 How do you decide what tier of cards to review? > 1:47:48 What part of the YouTube algorithm surprises you? [1:49:51] Topic #4: Rockstar selling cracked games on Steam. > 1:50:22 Rockstar's patch, Manhunt's anti-crack measures. > 1:53:07 Do two wrongs make a right? [1:54:26] Linus needs help with a passive 3D projector. [2:00:25] LTTStore's newsletter. [2:02:44] Topic #5: Mozilla's report on car's privacy nightmare. > 2:03:22 Excessive data collected, 84% share data. > 2:04:08 Tesla failed the test, Luke's car. > 2:04:47 Less security information provided, halting data protection petition. > 2:05:26 What to do when you cannot opt out? ft. Luke's car in LMG videos. [2:10:13] Topic #6: SAG-AFTRA might lead game VAs to strike. > 2:11:22 Best way to help VAs? Discussing AI/LLM & motion capture. > 2:18:58 Linus on game captions, Luke on gun-blades. [2:22:35] Topic #7: Gizmodo replaces a Spanish writer with a machine. [2:25:45] Topic #8: Frameworks sells "old" mainboards at a discount. > 2:27:15 Linus is concerned at how they lost the mainboards. [2:28:12] Merch Messages #3 ft. WAN Show After Dark, pizza. > 2:29:18 Linus puts bread on Dan's chair, gym time, pizza sauces, fruits. > 2:36:25 Any advice for working with work paralysis? Biggest "A HA!" moment? [2:39:38] The Backloggery for game collections. [Cont.] Merch Messages #3. > 2:40:21 Do you like it when people discuss tech with you in the wild? > 2:46:30 How many goats are you worth, and why? > 2:49:12 Process of designing LTTStore pins? > 2:50:12 Noctua screwdriver update? Bundling the Stubby & OG? > 2:53:10 How have the first few weeks of the slower video outputs been? > 2:56:50 Linus's socks preference. > 2:57:22 What happened to the stray cats in Linus's yards? > 2:59:02 What would take any of you to shave your beards? > 3:01:07 When did you guys realize you had PC building expertise? ft. Train. > 3:03:01 What LTTStore products are upcoming? > 3:06:00 Most frustrating example of losing work due to lack of backwards compatibility? > 3:09:07 Dropped the screwdriver from 130ft - any crazy tests on your products? > 3:12:08 Unscripted videos, how long until scripted? ft. "Chess problems," glasses. > 3:25:51 If LMG became a mid-sized corporation, should the WAN Show continue? > 3:27:46 Floatplane merch update? > 3:29:54 Where to go to look for a badminton racket? ft. Linus's FB market history. > 3:33:33 Would the boom in handheld devices cause AR to become popular? > 3:34:20 Linus's challenges with ADHD. > 3:35:04 Have the staff upgraded a product with third party item? > 3:36:22 Suggestions if I don't want to man a million plus projects? > 3:38:01 What videos do you wish to have a do-over? > 3:40:52 Advice to give someone who starts with no experience? Pitfalls to avoid? > 3:41:32 Is there a future where Nintendo bows out of the gaming space? [3:44:12] Outro.
  • @buddymac1
    If a 3rd party modder was able to add DLSS, including DLSS3, to Starfield within a week, no game developer with a team larger than one person has any excuse to NOT include DLSS in any game from here on out.
  • @LazyBunnyKiera
    I made mods for skyrim SE, with very open permissions. Someone recently ported my mod to the xbox version, and i was like, heck yeah, great work. I was happy to see my mod get spread around. The mods i make are QoL mods that i make for myself, that i release because i know these things that bug me, bug other people too.. Specifically, NPCs in skyrim always saying "that spell looks dangerous." seriously, it's like every single NPC would comment about my dangerous spells even when i didn't have any spells "equipped." As if every npc and child was some sort of magic expert and could tell how dangerous a spell was.. Drove me nuts.
  • @prosvade1337
    As someone who can never make it to the live stream. I watch the vids and I think it's fair to assume that a large portion of your audience can't make it to that exact time either but do want it playing at work (like me) or in the background of another task.
  • @Hjorth87
    Good morning from Denmark. It's nice to have you all back on track, so I can enjoy my Saturday in good company 😊
  • @naeledro
    In regards to Luke's view of developers taking a cut out of mods that use their modding tools: what happens if or when paid mods get so lucrative that other smaller developer teams start churning out mods? We're no longer talking about one passionate guy adding some textures or small feature, we're talking other developers making mods for a game released by some other developer. Luke already mentioned it, this is something like using Unreal Engine to develop your own game. I think the moment something is paid, it's no longer modding, it's third party DLC, which I'm not against. The problem with calling it modding is that everyone is super lenient when it comes to product quality. If it's a paid DLC (which cannot be called a mod) it should be help up to much higher quality standards.
  • @harbl99
    Todd 'Real Hair DLC' Howard: "We at Bethesda make amazing games." You make solid mod frameworks Todd.
  • @blackraven3720
    The biggest issue with 'paid mods' it keeping them updated, quite often the main game will update and the mod dev just gave up on his mod, and if you paid for it then you have a right for a working product!
  • 1:36:25 Fun fact: They can make more reliable LED lightbulbs, and they do them for specific countries, for example on Saudi Arabia, they made an agreement with the government to create a product for them, that you can buy in stores there and it is essentially lightbulbs with more LEDs in them, so they run at a lower current, more at their sweet spot instead of fewer strips carried more to their technical limits causing more stress to the LEDs reducing their lifespan
  • @imheretocomment
    One of the better WAN shows in a while. You guys covered some interesting topics and the banter was great. Happy to have y'all back.
  • @grn1
    Around 3:18:00 ish talking about losing your place while reading. There's a trick I learned in band (many years ago), our eyes are much better at returning to the same position than our heads so if you look somewhere else with just your eyes it's much easier to find your place again. During concert season we'd have to switch between reading the music and watching the director for cues.
  • @Ajyia
    I'd honestly rather have a smaller modding community, than having modded content go from what it is now to what'd essentially be third-party micro-DLC. We've already seen that slow but steady slippery slope when it comes to actual DLC, and I see no reason to believe that modding wouldn't go down the same path once some company finds a way to monetize it. So I'd rather take a very hard line on paid modding.
  • @PsRohrbaugh
    7:30 "people who complain about paid mods but seemingly possess 4080 series cards". For Christmas I bought my 14 year old nephew a gaming computer and a few games. He has literally zero ability to do online purchases by himself. So a non-free mod is a hard barrier for him whether it's 1¢ or $100
  • @josephtyer7434
    I would love to hear more about the chess problem with the pen, I do design work/CAD as a career and think it would be a fun challenge to mess around with.
  • @DeanRTaylor
    Missing key features from games and relying on mods is no better than paying to unlock heated seats even if they're free if mods start getting monetised then the industry is broken.
  • @Madpegasusmax
    for the old cars on Germany , the car must be on good condition and pass the inspection (TUV in Germany) .But there are on some Europe cities pollution interdictions , that dont allow old cars (despite if they are working well , and not smoking or leaking) to drive in this /or part of this cities ...
  • Paid mods are terrible. Can't even QA their mods for games they don't own IP rights for in the first place and in 99% of cases when you stop paying you stop getting updates. This was never a problem back in the day because modders did it for clout and out of passion. It's almost like this generation of modders saw paywalled GTAV Modmenus and went "yep, this is the way."
  • @rexyoda
    I like the idea that games and its mods are in a symbiotic relationship and no one owes anyone else
  • @altairfoo1920
    For the 3D Vision topic, NVIDIA may keep the software support for it in their Professional(former Quadro) line of hw/drivers according to PNY who listed "Support via optional 3-pin mini-DIN".
  • @modarkthemauler
    2:07:51 You can drive old cars in Germany and in Europe in general. But the car has to meet standards as in it has to be in good condition and not a rustbucket deathtrap that eats more engine oil than fuel. Maintaining older cars is expensive so people buy newer instead of fixing the older cars. Also fuel is expensive so newer lower MPG cars are preferred.