The Analog Console is GONE
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Published 2024-03-13
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I’m going to bookmark this video and watch it every time I go down an SSL console rabbit hole. 😂
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NEVE 8424 with Motorized Fader pack sounds like what you need
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Really appreciate this, Andrew. It's SO helpful to hear your thinking behind getting and now selling your console. As well as Edwin's console. Rock on, brother. Keep us posted.
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Having moved from a Toft Audio console into a console-less situation (with 40 channels of standalone mic pre’s) several years ago, I anticipated this exact video the moment I saw your video where you installed that console. But, having a dozen IRL friends who have gone through this same thing, I’ve just learned that everybody had to go through the same process of realization for themselves.
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Excited to see the new space and setup!
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We have a Harrison 950mx here and I don't know how I would get on without it. And this is an all electronic music studio. The console is just a large front end for a bunch of a hardware. 16 mono channels and 8 stereo. Stereo synths on stereo channels and mono synths... you get the idea. Each channel sent to either the red bus or the black bus. One bus is for recording stereo and one for mono. That's 3 channels total on our precious Mytek 8x192 AD/DA. I dont know how else I would this and save on expensive conversion. Channel counts on conversion add up in price pretty quickly. And we have a lot of synths. And outboard. Console has aux channels too so that saves on both latency and conversion channel count again. For things like Lexicon FX outboard etc. And I guess last but not least with the Harrison we get all analogue signal path to the monitors. Can hear the analogue synths in, well analogue. :) No conversion necessary when monitoring. I don't know how else I'd do all this. But if your use-case is split console like you said in the video then yeah you're stuck. We just use ours as a big input router and to save on conversion channels. Sure it has a nice sound but whatever. That's not even a consideration for us. All the best post console mate. Cheers.
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So excited to see your new space!
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This makes so much sense. Totally understand and being new to all of this, gives me perspective and helps me know what I should think about doing, opposed to what I might "want" to do. Thanks!
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This is good insight! I just sold my API The Box 2 Console after a similar period of ownership. Decided to go all in the box for mixing and had enough analog options for tracking already.
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The console in my old studio became our table. We only used it when we tracked drums, and even then we left it covered in everything because the pres and EQs were set. For day to day, I definitely don't miss it.
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love the thought behind making this move - hope it found a good home!
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I had wondered how you were making use of it. I',m with you that my workflow is just such that a console (While awesome aesthetically and sonically) would just get in the way and cause more headaches than problem solving. Workflow is 100% key, so sacrifices must be made to ensure productivity is kept. Thanks for letting me live vicariously through you in having it for a limited time, but like you said, you never know you don't need something until you have it for a while and see. Cheers and looking forward to the new studio videos.
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I appreciate you sharing this! Thank you!
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I think we have all been through this at one time or another. Very interesting to see what works depending on needs, wants, ergonomics etc. Good Luck with the new studio!
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Nice to hear that you continue to move forward. Sad to see the console leave . I remember your genuine excitement when you first got it .
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I’ve dreamt of having a real SSL since I first recorded on one back in ‘95 as a fresh faced 14 year old. It was mind blowing. But I genuinely wouldn’t have one now in 2024. I use an SSL UF1/UC1 and 2x UF8 along with 16 inputs of focusrite clarett and I’ve been fully in the box for 7 years now. It’s everything I could ever need. I love the old days but it’s just so much easier to get work done in the modern way.
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I'm very happy to see a true opinion of pros and cons in a hybrid system stated in such a lucid way. Today I find it very difficult to watch videos on YouTube which people really expose the 2 sides, the joys and sadness, of working with a console. Congratulations on the video.
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The struggle is real. I was using a 24 channel analog console for a long time and after I was done tracking I was fighting to work around it for everything else. Analog consoles with producers desks and automation are amazing but hard for many to justify. Depending on budget and what makes sense as a return on investment, anything ranging from the SSL controllers, to Avid S1, S3, S4 can serve a studio well. A lot of people complain that controllers are a big mouse and a waste of money. I feel ergonomics are so important and you'll work better, faster, and more efficiently with controllers, and it will show in your body of work.
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I don’t envy moving all that equipment, look forward to you showing the new spot 👌🏿