Slovenian SAR80: Sterling Out-Simplifies the AR-180

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Published 2023-05-15
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The British Sterling firm designed the SAR-80 (specifically, their engineer Frank Waters) as a very simple rifle to sell to countries outside the main NATO/Warsaw spheres of influence. Sterling ended up getting a license to produce the AR-18 though, and didn't put Water's design into production.

When the newly formed Chartered Industries of Singapore came looking for a rifle to produce, the SAR-80 design was a chance for Sterling to sell a production license. CIS needed something to produce domestically to equip the Singaporean Army, and the SAR-80 met their needs. After selling the rifles to their own Army, the company went looking for export clients. They found a few, including Croatia, the Central African Republic, and Slovenia. A total of about 80,000 SAR-80 rifles were made, and this is one of the Slovenian-contract examples.

Thanks to Polenar Tactical for the opportunity to film this neat piece!

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All Comments (21)
  • He’s more machine now than man. Twisted and obsessed with french guns
  • I knew it! How else could he remember all those facts about firearms and history, if he wasn't a cyborg all along?!
  • @CobraDBlade
    Ian is Skynet's lesser known T-765(FL) model, specifically designed as a mobile weapons information unit, able to upload any missing data to field Terminator units.
  • @YnnekStoner
    No don't tell me the institute got Ian and replaced him with a synth 😮 00:08
  • @JSWBSQ
    Just a sidenote on the magazine taken from the rifle: It is standard AR15/M16 mag also with side cut on right side fits AR18 but it also fits Ultimax 100 LMG with those two round holes under left side mag lip. In the 1990 is Slovenia bought SAR80 and some Ultimax 100 light machineguns which uses drum magazines but needs modified AR15/M16 mags (with those two holes) so it can be used. Seen both weapons in use with Croatian Special Police forces and ZNG in 90's, government of Croatia purchase those along with or from Slovenia for the't purpose. Great job as always from Cyborgs 🙂 at Forgotten Weapons and Inc.. (Polenar, Bloke and so onn...) 😃
  • For the money the AR-18 series of guns is about the most "Bang" you can get for your money. I am always amazed how simple these guns are, yet how well they work. I can't believe someone has not started making them for the civilian market, at half the price of an AR-15 series.
  • @wormisgod
    CIS license produced M16A1-pattern rifles, which were standard issue for the Singapore Armed Forces into the 2000s. The SAR-80 (and SR88) never saw widespread service in Singapore. CIS/ST was never wildly successful as an arms producer, especially without government support. Their small arms were, at best, exported to a few developing states. Even the Ultimax in Singaporean service is now being replaced by Colt IARs.
  • @asteroidrules
    Like the SAR 80, the Ultimax 100 would also be exported in some quantity to Slovenia and Croatia around the same time, as were Singaporean made Armbrust antitank launchers. Croatia and Slovenia just seemed to like buying from Chartered Industries/ST in the 70s-90s.
  • I love it when guns come with original accessories even if the contents are a little cheap.
  • @actionjksn
    I really love the design of this I think it's very clever. The simplicity is a very good thing in my opinion. The recoil springs and rods look like they're really good and the adjustable gas block is great and simple and probably pretty reliable if you keep it clean. The only two things I see that are not so great are the non captured take down pins and the front sling mount. I guess if it's your issued weapon you are going to make damn sure you don't lose those takedown pins. It would have added a lot of expense making them captured. It's normally done by drilling a hole through the aluminum receiver, but with stamped steel you can't drill that hole and you would probably have to weld something onto the receiver. If I was using one of these on the battlefield I think I would acquire a couple of extra takedown pins and keep them stashed away somewhere. I wonder what it weighs I did not hear him mention that. I think the sights looked pretty decent and functional as well
  • @CJBrunt
    Saw a few Singaporean SAR80s with Solomons Islands police back in 2003, also their Ultimax.
  • @RCyap1
    When I was a army reservist with a Singapore army transport battalion 18 rears ago, this was our personal weapon. Front line units were using M16s. More parts vs. M16, meant harder time in the field cleaning it. Thank you for the video.
  • @jon1801
    Thanks Ian, what a brilliant and simple design. Sterling produced excellent kit, I used the SMG a lot, never a failure. I loved the finish too.
  • Great video, I’d love to see a more current forgotten weapons style video on the SAR-21. I moved to Singapore just after they adopted it and saw it at their military museum. They had a cool little light gun game for kids to play with M16s where you could shoot some really basic looking 2D figures on a screen.
  • @TraTranc
    Here in Italy, we have those former Slovenian SAR-80s on our civilian market. They have been demilitarized (converted to semi-automatic only with modifications that prevent select-fire operation from being restored) and are pretty nice guns. Good shots too.
  • This is so nostalgic to me Ian. I am from Singapore. During my days in the army as a armorers. I use to service and take down SAR 80. Like you mentioned. It is easily and economically made to suits to our conscript army recruits. The stamps receiver body was feeling more sort of “flimsy” then the usual M16 variant we use widely during those days. We usually issued the rifle use for the logistically support units and such.😅