The Questionable Engineering of Oceangate

Man, you can feel the anger Real Engineering has against ocean gate incompetence, considering his thesis was on Composite materials

My carbon fiber bicycle frame went through more testing than this freaking submarine. This thing is such an insane story the more we learn about.

Ocean gate reminds me of a lesson from my business ethics class where my teacher showed us seemingly ridiculous OSHA regulations. We all thought why would there be rules on things like waste storage and my teacher then showed us the real life cases that made those rules a thing

I'm an automotive engineer and my company is trying to adopt the "Move fast and break stuff" mentality. It means requirements no longer get written until us testing engineers demand them for us to write our tests (and sometimes not even then) and that flaws can't be removed without undoing other work that's already been done on top of them. Instead those flaws get bought off by upper management even when they're incredibly noticeable for customers. The motto we have for the employees is "take two (minutes) for safety" which I find to be the opposite since it's essentially asking us to take extra time to make sure a situation is safe to proceed with. Other phrases that are opposite are "haste makes waste", "measure twice, cut once" and many more similar sayings that have been around for generations because anyone with half a brain cell can tell you that rushing through something results in more safety issues ...I just remembered I have an external ethics survey I was sent that I should fill out

it blows my mind that this is still considered an accident. this was entirely foreseen, predicted, and warned of. at best, it's negligence. at worst, it's murder.

“This is not innovation; it’s profiteering,” is so succinct, such an apt way to describe the whole thing. Well said.

The most important words that anyone can say who is involved in designing something are "I can't do that, it isn't safe". When I'm working on servers that handle the payment transactions of hundreds of thousands of people, and I get told to cut a corner, those are the words I use. Because I can't. It'll hurt too many people if I screw up and people's credit card details get leaked. When my friends who develop software for medical equipment are told to rush something or bodge it, it's the words they use. It's the words my friends, mechanical engineers, use when they're asked to cut corners or rush something without sufficient testing or review.

A similar story can be found in the documents of the Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster. Management rationalized the use of sealant beyond its tested usable temperature, and it leaked, killing seven crew.

"Questionable engineering" should be a new series in this channel! I would devour every part of it!

“The vast majority of marine accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure.” Yes, because the regulators catch the mechanical failures

As someone who has never had a day of engineering education, I surprised myself by actually understanding this video. All the credit goes to how skilled you are at explaining these high-level concepts in an understandable way. Thank you! :)

Got to “love” the Cave Johnson-esque approach to safety Stockton Rush had. Went about the same for Cave too.

I am an engineer (retired now) and still remember what one of university lecturers said - when cooks make a mistake people get stomach ache. When engineers do, people die. Lesson I have remembered all my working life.

The fact that hearing cracking noises on several of the descents, which was reported by many different passengers, was just completely disregarded by Rush or regarded as "normal" is absolutely mind blowing. Or the fact that they would lose contact with the mother vessel regularly and this was also regarded as normal and "not a big deal" is insane. Rushs arrogance had reached delusion and the negligence was to the umpth degree.

I love how without really trying, Real Engineering just destroys Oceangates recklessness. My favorite phrase he used was "Safety Theatre". Not sure that is an established term but it is a very accurate descriptor.

Even worse than the engineering was the hubris of Oceangate. They just tuned out everyone that said “that’s probably a bad idea.” Things rarely go right when people refuse to listen to others.

To those complaining about the "lateness" of this video: this is what happens when you take the time to do things right. You may not get to be the first. You may not get all the hype clicks. But you do get to be the best. This is without question the best analysis of this accident on YouTube.

Oceangate did real time test runs with live subjects aboard. Problem is, everyone died when they discovered the failure rate.

Stockton Rush spent more effort in avoiding regulations than he did making sure his craft was safe. He will be remembered all right, the topic in many engineering safety courses for years to come!

The fact that so many warnings were ignored is truly shocking, as an engineer in training I’m disgusted to hear that an employee who raised concerns was fired considering the fact that during my time in this industry I have been taught to speak up if I think something is wrong even if it isn’t, this project that ocean gate undertook was nothing short of greed and stupidity and as the video perfectly put it “This is not innovation; it’s profiteering” a truly sad situation that could have easily been avoided but has now persisted past the end point into something that unfortunately cannot be undone.