All-flash NAS fight: DIY or Buy – Round III!

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Published 2023-07-10
Special thanks to both ASUSTOR and Silvertip Labs for sending these NAS storage servers to test!

I purchased the drives used in the video, though the two Seagate IronWolf NVMe drives I put into my older NAS were provided by Seagate.

Part I:    • Raspberry Pi vs ASUSTOR NAS Head-to-H...  
Part II:    • Raspberry Pi vs ASUSTOR NAS – Round II  

Here are things I mentioned in this video (some links are Amazon affiliate links):

- ASUSTOR AS-T10G3 Dual M.2 + 10 GbE card: amzn.to/3D1DUpV
- TeamGroup M.2 SATA 1TB SSD (for Pocket NAS): amzn.to/3D3FJTl
- TeamGroup M.2 NVMe 1TB SSD (for Flashstor): amzn.to/3PPySV0
- ASUSTOR Flashstor 12 Pro: amzn.to/3NIfQxh
- SilverTip Labs' PocketNAS questionnaire: rpgtavern.live/index.php?page=mininas
- Setting up OMV on the Rock 5 model B: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/building-tiny-6-dri…
- Installing TrueNAS on the ASUSTOR: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/how-i-installed-tru…

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Contents:

00:00 - Flash-off and new plans
00:39 - The contenders: Flashstor and Pocket NAS
01:28 - Pocket NAS: Rock 5 model B and OMV
04:51 - Flashstor 12 Pro: Intel and ADM
07:11 - PCIe is the bottleneck
08:11 - Read speeds good enough for video editing
09:28 - The best feature: TrueNAS?
11:11 - The victor
11:59 - A glimpse of the future

All Comments (21)
  • @marcogenovesi8570
    Also big props for not locking down the bios and providing a convenient video port
  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    Hey Jeff! Thanks so much for taking a look at our first ever All-Flash NVMe NAS! We have made numerous improvements to our design since the last time we sent products to you and we'd love to share all the ways we keep Red Shirts out of our NAS and enthusiasts and tinkerers inside! With our recent endorsement of third party operating systems, (though without technical support) we're sure that using our NAS is nothing short of a NASTastic experience and we want to keep listening! If you, dear commentor; or youtuber, want to send me a message, feel free to do so! I love praise, comments, questions and even criticism! Hit me up and thanks again!
  • @johngraham8278
    One additional thing I'd call out when comparing HDD vs SSD: how much data you can store in a given physical space. It's a little insane to me the absolute minimal footprint that a flash based system can occupy, and for people who live in places where physical space is at a premium, that's a very real consideration.
  • @ortzinator
    I really appreciate that you just go straight into it with no intro
  • The pocket nas is almost EXACTLY what I've been wanting for a few years. I'm a traveler who requires a lot of offline video storage.
  • @deanlawson6880
    Wow great video comparing the nitty gritty details on these 2 NAS solutions! So interesting and informative - Thanks for this Jeff! I also really like how the purchased NAS solution is basically open hardware and not locked down and you can install anything you want on it - Thanks the way it should be.
  • @BioToxin
    the pocket nas would be perfect for me as a trucker, great to store some games on for my laptop, might even be able to make a ceph storage cluster , that would be something
  • @Rettro404
    Amazing product from asustor! Open bios is crazy, I love being able to use my own software
  • @Davvg
    I love watching these things, the $1300 is definitely outside of my price range but that is a fantastic little nas
  • @StillConfusing
    man it's crazy seeing those prices on ssds I remember paying $140 for my 1tb drive a few years ago
  • @plica06
    Another thoroughly researched and excellently presented video by Jeff "The Man" Geerling.
  • @etimacias
    N5105 can easily run with 32GB of RAM - should help TueNAS. And the slow-down on write speeds is due to reaching end of cache. Most cheaper flash drives use QLC memory as the most cost-effective with some cache (DRAM or SLC). Once it fills - the drive becomes dreadfully slow. Would be interesting to see the influence of that for the ZFS poo performance.
  • @Thermophobe
    data hoarding is the only reason i'd ever look at hdd going forward. thanks to oversupply of flash memory, it is a great time to set up a flash-only storage. not to forget how easier they are to move around without risking data loss.
  • @mikefarrington7141
    The small SBC as NAS devices interest me for home clustering experimentation. Hiding a bunch of these around the house for distributed compute and storage would be neat... running your own little home cloud, the house is the server.
  • @kozygeorg
    Awesome video Jeff! Love your thoroughness in your reviews. What I'd one day like about consumer nases is enclouseres for diyers to use. I can build a Nas in a case, but it has not enough drive mounts. I can build one in an old server but it is not power efficient and empty server chassis with drive bays are super expensive
  • @Knirin
    The Asusstor read speed drop with truenas was from ZFS’s checksum verification on read. The N5105 is just a bit slow at that task.
  • @hikaru-live
    When you actually get 50+ PCIe lanes for your drives something like an AMD EPYC, you can run into another problem for an NVMe-only NAS: internal bandwidth of the CPU. When Linus Tech Tips filled up an AMD EPYC with 24 SSDs, he hit a major stability bug in the CPU, because all those NVMe traffic ate up the entire internal bus bandwidth of the EPYC processor and started knocking CPU cores offline!
  • @robertoblack8176
    The Oragmi thing could even run (even if i dont need) it on my powerbank,that caps at 10.5Watts probably all day long under good load.What are the chances?😂.Great Video Jeff,please keep going and stay healty.
  • @playeronthebeat
    The pocket NAS is actually of GREAT use to me. This can be a travel NAS for me for my photography. It's easy to set up and I could put my data on it without blasting it on my PC and have it WAY more safe. The flashstore could a cool thing for me at home as an intermediate storage for hot projects, too. I could edit them there and after I'm finished archiving them on a slower NAS. Especially due to it not being locked down. This is a really great factor for people like me who have some DIY NAS and consider some pre-builts like this one so that they can be managed with the same OS.
  • @roymorrison1075
    Yes saw this Nas a few weeks ago, that impressed I bought the 6 version, 6 x team group 2tb drives. Got it yesterday, can't stop playing with it 😀