The New Dune Movies Forgot the Best Scene!!!

CHAPTERS 0:00 Frank Herbert's Dune 0:40 Guild Navigators from Novel 2:49 1984 Movie Adaptation 3:32 Mini-Series 4:14 2021 & 2024 Adaptation 5:33 Conclusion 6:02 Closing Thoughts 6:35 Subscribe

I hate to be THAT GUY, but the nevigators do not "fold space", the "Holtzman engines" do that, the navigator is there for his prescience, he is there to foresee any danger in the "folded route", so that the ship ("Heighliner") wouldn't pass through a planet or a sun that could exist in between the two points of fold.

Denis did the right thing holding them back. They’ll be the talk of the third movie, as Feyd has been with the second.

I hope it will look somewhat like the 1984 grotesque version. It looks physically very impractical and it's huge head hints at it's extraordinary mental capabilities I like the idea that being a navigator is a complete physical curse and prison counterbalanced by it's mental blessings.

We saw them in “Arrival”. 😂😂

I really hope in dune messiah they appear, because in part 1 he showed a human spider, that is way more weird than a navigator

1984 version is the one that I remember most.

A friend gave me the Dune Trilogy .. I read the first few pages of the first book, put the book down and didn't read further. This same friend took me to see the movie in 1984 .. it was so strange, I recall wondering why it wouldn't end and wishing it would. Then 10 years later, one night late, I caught the 1984 version on some cable channel .. at the point when Paul and Jessica were escaping. Either because I was older then or I cared to pay more attention, something clicked. Since then, I don't know how many times I've seen the various versions of the 1984 film nor how many times I've ready the books but Dune is my most favorite sci-fi. The depth is amazing. So many details. Denis' version is just eye candy with great writing, that while he skips some portions that provide that depth I love, he remains faithful to the idea that is Dune.

this is the easiest question: he wants to hold them back until Messiah.

As much as I love the DV movies, I think he shrouded the guild in too much mystery to the point that they are practically non existent. A few more scenes with the representatives in the background to remind us that they exist would have fixed this. Fingers crossed for Dune Prophecy

Also in the book its stated if i remember no one as ever seen a guild navigator so it makes no sense to show them

One thing I did appreciate about the scene in 84 between the navigator and emporer, is how the navigator was able to see the ultimate plan the emporer was cooking up. Although it was heavy on exposition and explained everything too much, I appreciated how it provided a little context more and explained why Paul was a threat.

My first exposure to Dune 1984 was around 1986. I was 6 years old. My Mom was taping it for my adult sister from HBO. We came home from somewhere and turned on the tv just in time to catch the Baron pull the heart plug on someone and blood splatter everywhere. My Mom turned it off, but not before I got an eyeful. Same sister later got mad at me for writing sci-fi and horror short stories when I was a teenager. I really hope the guild navigators appear in Dune 3. But I will love it either way, I am sure.

The Navigators have NEVER "folded space".

This is why I love the different Dune adaptations you can watch because each tells the story from another angle. Hopefully, Villeneuve will show the Navigators in Dune Messiah, as they play a major role in the coming story.

Truth. The Navigators were incredible. Villeneuve has made many omissions and deletions and changes from source material. I give his films a solid B for world building but certain things are rankling. I don't believe Villeneuve truly understands what Herbert was trying to portray.

Edric will make a triumphant entrance in Messiah!!

Another strange omission is the weirding modules. One of, if not, the main reason the emperor wanted rid of the Atreides.

Some people have no patience... The first scene with a navigator in will be in Dune Messiah... Which is exaclty how it is in the books...

One thing is for sure.. The guild navigators at the end of book 1 are part of the reason why pauls threat works and the emperor has to abide. Maybe that's why the fremen immediately had to jump in ships to fight the houses at the end of the 2nd movie. It was kinda weird seeing them immediately jump on the warships. They knew how to fly them? The atreides army was destroyed and they seemed to make no prisoners of the harkonnens and saurdakars. I can't remember the fighting starting right away in the books. I gotta go back and check it.