Common Mistypes: INTP or ISTJ?

Published 2024-03-01
An in-depth cognitive breakdown of the differences between these surprisingly similar types. Leave the ISTJ stereotypes at the door - this type is grievously misunderstood. This video employs CPT Network theory to demonstrate otherwise little-known type proximities.

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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.

Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.

I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:20 - Thinking Processes
03:00 - Common Networks
05:04 - Feeling Processes
08:00 - Commonalities
08:50 - Orientations
12:22 - Wrap-up
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KEY

Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.

Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.

Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.

Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.

Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.

Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.

For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!

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All Comments (21)
  • Harry is always the best at explaining these things without a biased and one-dimensional stereotypical filter of these types. The network theory is a very effective tool to utilize within the meta-theory; since it's all dependent on the angle you're looking at. We're limiting ourselves to one facet, when there's something more.
  • @AlburyShaffer
    Looking more and more like a lumberjack Jesus with every video. Love the content as always Harry. Also, for a long time people told me I was crazy for saying the INTP-ISTJ-INFJ mistype triangle was very real. I’m glad to see many popular voices in the community bringing this up now.
  • @Gbuljba
    Please make more of these common mistypes videos! 🙏
  • @JaneOri
    I absolutely LOVE the idea of having unique icons/symbols for each of the 16 types. The two in the thumbnail are beautiful. If you could make the icon image files (SVGs?) available, I'd love to use them - do you intend on making them available if you have all 16?
  • @sinidom2113
    So much positivity in this video. Huge advantage you have with such positivity.
  • @zahraho6771
    I'm trying to understand which one I am for a couple of months, happy to see your content about it. But I'm not sure yet😂
  • Can you at some point do the comparison video between Si convergent types? (Like you did for Ni convergents)
  • @felypedaniel5467
    Brillant video , really fascinating to explore and play with the dip mechanics. More network theory please
  • @guernica5413
    This will be a very wonderful series! There are many types with no straightforward relation when you consider the Myers Briggs dichotomies. Edit: nice drawings for the types, btw
  • @Tified967
    Harry this was a fantastic overview as usual. It's so good to see now you really relaxing in your videos - you just seem much more 'at home' doing this, it almost seems like second nature! Keep it up but most importantly take care of yourself, Emma 😊
  • Very good. Interesting information. School must be going well, you look refreshed. The new hair look is cool also.
  • @dumbgenius725
    A concise and informative video, I like it! I really hope to see more common mistypes videos like this in the future using network theory. Great work as always Harry! :)
  • @alfie8645
    Awesome video, always like hearing someone breakdown the “NF” vibe commonalities between types into a detailed “ST” explanation. Would love to see an INTJ-ISTP video and generally more from this series.
  • All ISTJ look very different because of dominant function Si. Whereas INTP all sort of look the same - INTJ Also I’ve noticed ISTP , ISTJ, INTJ, INTP sometimes get mistaken INTP ISTJ - Book Smart INTJ ISTP - street smart
  • @SoulGoof7
    Magnificent. This is something I myself was wondering about. Thanks for listening to the folks, man. Also, opinion on Sheldon Cooper? He's perhaps the most notorious intp/istj confusion in the mbti community.
  • This is interesting. Nice video! I have many ideas about the types I sometimes find hard to tell apart. One that comes to mind lately is (as wild as it sounds) ESTJ vs ISFJ. Is there any reason why I find some people of these types similar and a bit hard to tell apart? Along with the individual ESTJ video I am looking forward to these comparison videos 😊
  • @JonathanJimbo
    I think I'm an INTP whereby my family (who are familiar with MBTI but make the classic mistake of typing by letters) typed me as an ISTJ. ISTJ made sense until I looked at the functions. For example because I'm extremely introverted function dominated, making me heavily favour Si over Ne. Therefore if you type by letters, it's very easy to mistype me as an "S". I do heavily use Ti way more than Te. I prefer to analyse and know things, way more so than actually getting things done. I'm always procrastinsting. This comment was written at 1am and I still haven't prepared for tomorrow. I also relate a lot more to Fe than Fi. Mostly I emotion based on emotional contagion rather than anything else. And it's often an unconscious process that I'm unaware of. That all lines up nicely with INTP. However, that being said, I do think I have an ISTJ-like side. I'm also a diagnosed Autistic. There are some moral convictions / principles I feel VERY strongly. E.g. a strong sense of justice / fairness. And if I feel anything is violating such principles I go into Fi / Te mode. In this state of mind my usual Ti analytical brain goes completely out the window where I'm doing Te based actions (based on the Fi principles) without thinking of the consequences. Fe also goes out the window in such a state of mind. Another thing that triggers that state of mind is the idea of admitting defeat. This drives some extreme Te based persistence because my my mind cannot simply let go and accept failure. This last paragraph is something my family often observe which I belisve is what leads them to mistype me as a "J". However INTP makes more sense as my overall type because I believe Ti / Fe is my default state. The Fi / Te only comes out when I'm feeling strong emotions. And I don't believe I've ever used Fi convergently. My moral principles are static, unwavering and rigid. Instead it's my logical frameworks that are more fluid and dynamic.
  • @gottagetrich1
    Please do a video directly about extroverted thinking next
  • Harry can you make a vid describing the cognitive networks for INTJs vs ISTJs? I notice those two get mistyped quite a lot too. The idea of cognitive networks is indeed unqiue but it rather needs to be streamlined. When do such changes occur? We know that they occur but when? There must be other variables describing what makes a type to collapse towards a certain expression. But based on your expression it would seem that all combinations are possible and so it is up to the agency of a type to decide what combination is should collapse into. So in that sense then there must be something like conscious agency and there isn't just a mechanistic arbitrary use of cognitive functions? How does a type would model his own employment of a given combination? You said that cognition acts at a faster oscillation than the conscious. So would those proceses be automated based on a diverse range of environmental or situational factors or would a type have a conscious choice to collapse into them? If the conscious runs slower than cognition and it is automated. Would then cognition be a byproduct of the unconscious? So would then those combinations themselves be an emyployment of the unconscious expressions? If that is so then is type itself unconscious or there's something more besides it? If there is what makes it conscious in the first place?