Don't Buy The New SpaceX Starlink Standard Dish

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I've had my gen 2 dish since June of 2022. The service has only gotten better over time. I use roughly 1.5 TB a month. I've had no issues with live streaming or gaming. Overall it's been one of the best ISPs I've had. Even better than Xfinity when I lived in the city.

Original dish, early beta tester. Still going strong through many Wyoming winters. I like the idea of fewer moving parts, thus even more reliable. Higher power almost certainly to power the additional antennas. It has to be able to go further off optimal angle in some cases, and now it can only do that via beamforming with stronger signals to compensate for lobing losses.

As usual, J, perfect content and delivery…. For all experienced and new SL customers, we thank you. BTW, I have the mobile backpack, with “standard” set up for mobile subscription. I have used the for work off a roofed porch hotels, parking lots, woods, building roofs, etc. I am wary of losing the automated set up where the motor moves the dish to the best spot per location. I do not have to fiddle around for hours pointing the dish. Motorized works better when there is not complete clear sky. And, depending on time of day and sats overhead, it will adjust to keep signal and improve it. Lower power draw is better. Many of the times in use for mobile, I am using smaller solar generator to power the mobile kit. It will last for more than 13 hours (or much more) with no sun to recharge. Even cloudy days is enough to recharge plus run system. Adding more power to allocate may dictate larger solar cells and generator for mobile apps. Here is what I think…. Test them both in mobile setting. Same exact location. Might have to do test back to back (possible interference with two close together). Make the test where the sky is not 100% unobstructed from SL perspective. See how they compare in set up/tuning, and performance. I volunteer to bring mine to FL and test at a location with you J. We should figure out a way to get a new mobile set up for testing. We will be in your neck of the woods early December for short time. And during month of Feb-first half of March. Let me know if this makes sense.

I think it's hard to beat the autonomous self aiming antenna for signal strength and ease of deployment

You get a wider field of view, you can use it while moving (not recommended with the motor) you get the ethernet (already $30 off), it is lighter and way easier to handle, got a 24V dc plug, got a detachable cable (not fixed as the old model) and I think way worth the money. Also, as it is a phase array inside, orienting electronically I could not care less how much Space X has to pay (they are paying on top anyway) because the build cost has nothing to do with the consumer price. I think the new model is the better one, as test show faster downloads even while moving and not perfectly aligned.

You're forgetting 3 important things: - Articulation was absolutely necessary when there were many times fewer satellites in the air, and they were harder to find. - SpaceX does not like unnecessary moving parts, so if adding more antennas and a wider view will work, then they will do that, and it will only improve as they add thousands more satellites over time. - Once the stationary panel has a wide enough field of view to match the available satellites, it seems to be better as indicated by its use for commercial connections, and Musk's claim that his own aircrafts connection tends to have impeccable speed and reliability. Edit: Independent engineering analysts suspected that they were subsidizing the cost of the original antennas, due to the cost associated with phased array antennas usually more common for military uses etc than residential.

Hi JCristina! Thanks for your informative videos! When Starlink started sending out the round dish and then the first rectangular dish, the cost to produce was quoted at maybe $3000 per unit. It was projected to reduce over time, I have not heard for a while what their cost per unit is now. Maybe at this point each unit is still sold at a loss, so maybe it's still a deal. I got my rectangular dish in February 2022, later that year the motors froze and could not change position even though degraded service was still adequate (I use it on my RV) After complaining to Customer Service, they sent another unit at no charge (and asked to return the original). My take is that the motors are a complication (Musk: The best part is no part) that increases the cost to Starlink. I agree that the increased power requirement is an issue for many RV'rs, especially dry camping. I hope they can reduce the power comsumption in the future. Thanks Max

100% agreed. I like how much more simpler and thinner it is but like you said it has the big con of it not having the rotation mechanism. I also do agree it should be cheaper because it doesn't have the self-adjusting system. I do agree that this might be good for somebody who has an RV, plane or boat. Yeah I also am a little bit skeptical because I don't know how it'll do if it's mounted in a singular place. At least on an RV and a boat because they are much lower in the atmosphere compared to a plane. So I could see how a plane might perform better than residential or RV and boat.

I'm a RVer I have the gen 3 the one with the kick stand. I do not know but I have been told that the speed is faster but I really do not know if this is true or not. Being a RVer we have had places where we could not get a clear site of the sky but we were able to watch TV , streaming , and email with very little problems. Most of the time we have to place it some distance from our motorhome in order to get a better shot between the trees and this seems to work out better for us being able to do this. Seems like in the past people want to setup underneath trees everywhere , but with satellite internet its a bigger problem. I will order a longer cable so that this will give up better places to get signals. My wife is a gamer so when shooting between trees the 6 to 20 mbps seems not to work unless there is a somewhat clearing to the sky.

Thanks for the thoughtful review. For the last year, we’ve have the standard articulating dish mounted flat on our camper’s roof, which disables the motors. I did a couple of tests before mounting it and found that allowing the dish to aim itself made no significant difference. The more streamlined design of the new dish is great, but I just wish Starlink would offer the router without the router part! Many have reconfigured the articulating system to use 12V power so they can use a low-power 12V router. It would be great to have a dongle that consisted of a power supply and an ethernet port to connect to any router. (But at least this one has a power brick - it’ll be interesting to see what power consumption will be if the power brick is replaced with a 12V buck booster.) With the high monthly cost, the purchase point is not a tipping point. (Especially when we’re all carrying around $1,000 cell phones.) How long until Starlink is bundled with Starlink Cell? :) For me, the decision to get the new dish will hinge mostly on performance. If it’s even better at piercing through tree cover (which is rarely a problem with our current dish) I’d strongly consider it.

Completely agree. I was excited about the new unit and not having to carry the large stand would be a big plus for me but wish there was a DC option. Can't imagine using the new version and fuss with trying to align on a pole but while traveling/camping, the new one have great potential but not worth the extra spending to trade it until they come out with a no stand and DC option.

I'm coming up on my first full winter with Starlink. I usually get 2 or 3 snowfalls of nearly 2 feet so I have dishy on a 3 foot pole on the roof of a 2 story house. If the heater can't keep up with a brisk snowfall, I can put it into the nearly vertical stow mode momentarily to clear the face. Not going to be able to do that with the fixed one.

Hi. I took the motorised one. Just bought the ethernet adapter. I bypassed the Starlink router with a TP-Link Archer AX55 to get better wifi performance for my tablet and my smartphone and other accessories. Every other connections, is with cable Rj45 Cat7. Thanks for your video. Hello from brussels, BELGIUM.

Where did you get the model (.stp file) for the Gen 3 router? Thank you, Sir.

I'm a trucker. The roof of my sleeper is fiberglass, and any antenna I'd use will be mounted up against the inside of the ceiling, pointing (more or less) straight up. Since price isn't a factor, I'll likely go with the new dish due to its wider field of view. The inside unit is irrelevant, as I'll go with a direct Ethernet connection via a modded cable. (I'll need to shorten the 50 foot cable by about 40 feet.)

Great Info! Out of curiosity what software do you use for video editing?

Here in New Mexico, after you conveniently set your new dish on a table, you may come back an hour later and have to follow the cables across your lawn to track down where your dish sailed away to. That's true with most states in the West. The wind blows and at times blows hard. Even sandbagging it would be tentative.

I'm thinking of getting the Flat High Performance dish for better heavy rain performance. Do you think this new dish is as good as the flat performance dish? Also I like the High Performance (Not Flat) dish as well because it will use my current eve mount on my house. So I'm between the Flat High Performance and the High Performance dish currently. Have you tested these? Awesome video btw.

I currently own two of the second Gen dish and I can tell you that I can totally see how everything has improved over time. I don't see this new dish being better than the second gen, so I won't be upgrading. I agree with everything you say, it doesn't feel like an upgrade, plus I enjoy the convenience of the dish to automatically adjust itself.